Mass killings by US forces in Afghanistan war

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    No it was you, and I pointed it out.
     
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    Syria is a Secular Muslim Nation --- did you not know this or did you think Syria was not a Muslim Nation ? Iraq under Hussain was also Secular.
     
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    They worshipped him as god, but they didn't believe he was an actual god in a theological sense. According to Shintoism emperors are descendants of gods, but did they think he was a god? No.

    Eisenhower and McArthur thought they were ready to surrender before the 1st nuke, and that all they had to do is change the terms of surrender.

    "Generals Dwight Eisenhower, Douglas MacArthur and Henry “Hap” Arnold and Admirals William Leahy, Chester Nimitz, Ernest King and William Halsey are on record stating that the atomic bombs were either militarily unnecessary, morally reprehensible, or both."
     
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    I didn't attend any service Acadamy but I have read a book or two and you are right.
     
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    About 50% of muslim nations (23 out of 49) are considered secular.
     
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    We could never have forced Japan to surrender without the bomb. Conventional bombing has never won a war and never will. The traditional rule is that "unoccupied enemy territory is still enemy territory". You have to have your own Soldiers standing in enemy territory to ensure the war is over. Nuclear weapons changed that. The devastation is like nothing else in human history. Conventional bombing results in rebuilding. Nukes result i slow, painful death from radiation.
     
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    US leadership knew Japan had no choice after Soviets entered the picture. Either they surrendered to the US or become a part of the Soviet Union. They chose wisely.
     
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    Didn't realize it was that high .. but yeah .. dude had no idea there were Secular Muslim Nations..
     
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    Phoning and 'knocking on the roof' are standard procedures
    for Israelis hunting Hamas who hide behind women's skirts.
    I marvel how they killed that Ayyash guy, the 'engineer' who
    master minded the mass killings of civilians and prompted
    Israel to put up the security fence - he was killed remotely
    wihout harming anyone else in the apartment. Google the
    'Ninja bomb', it's designed to take out a single person in a
    car without harming others in the same vehicle.
    Hamas doesn't bother - it fires rocket propelled grenades at
    school buses, suicide bombers on buses and rockets at
    shopping centers.
     
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    No its not "Standard Procedure" .. and Israel would be moron's to do so. You have no clue what you are talking about . and why do you think Israel would do somthing so moronic ? .
     
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    I doubt how secular they actually were or are.
     
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    Be just like California, huh?
     
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    Yes it is standard, and the Gazans know it.
    This performs the function of bringing down infrastructure without mass killings
    (ie the media building last Gaza war)
    Roof knocking - Wikipedia

    Sometimes it backfires. Swarms of civilians and their front-line children human shields
    will crowd a buildings roof to prevent an IDF strike. If Israel did this they would be the
    perfect target for Hamas and Islamic Jihad

    idf-humanshield-jul20.jpg
     
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    Who cares about an opinion of someone who does not know what the word "secular" means .. on whether or not a nation is secular ?

    Tell you what .. rather than explain what characteristics would make a nation secular .. tell me what makes a nation "Not" secular and what of these characteristics did Syria have.
     
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    No - it isn't standard .. as evidenced by the number of innocent civilians killed by the IDF - 10 Palestinian Children for every 1 Israeli child.

    What was standard . was dropping 1000 bombs in the middle of crowded neighborhoods - hence all the criticism of the UN over the years.


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/sep/25/israel

    Situation was so out of hand that Israeli Pilots started refusing to fly.
     
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    You were the one claiming there was no secular Muslim nations .. then .. backtracking to ..nor very secular.

    "Why" ? To back up your claim so folks don't think you are a moron.
     
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    I said that, "not very secular?" I said I don't believe they are secular. If they are a Muslim nation all their laws will be strongly influenced by Islam. Their level of tolerance will be much different than our own.

    Now can we be buddies again?
     
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    Of course we can be buddies .. just as soon as I put you in your respective place -- there is a proper order.. but Kudo's for giving a coherent response .. that goes a long way towards buddydom.

    Syria has a Constitution - Sharia ist "verboten"

    In Syria there is drinking alcohol and dancing in bars .. women wear skirts and proper bathing suits .. no need of permission from a man for an education .. or to marry .. or to socialize.. There are Christian churches .. Jewish synagoge .. and many other religious sects. No death penalty for Apostasy .. stoning adulterers -- throwing gays off buildings ... or any of the things we all associate with Strict Sharia Theocracy.

    It is for this reason .. Syria was the blood enemy of Bin Ladin ... and beloved mothership of all these extremist nut jobs -- El Saud.
    It is for tis reason we sent 911 suspects to Assad for "Questioning - aka Extraordinary Rendition" .. as Assad is an expert in dealing with these nut -jobs .. and it is seldom pretty .. hence the crying from the west ..

    Assad has Christian Generals in his army. Guess our State Sponsored Propaganda machine forgot to mention this -- cause we were on the side of the nut jobs ... all the "Moderates" fighting for Assad .. trying to keep their freedoms.. from the Strict Sharia extremist Islamist rebels.
     
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    Hiroshima. Do you see a lot of military facilities?
    [​IMG]
     
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    I'm talking about politicians.
     
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    That is why I speak of atrocities from all sides.
    Because many commentators on this forum talk about the atrocities of the Japanese, Germans, .... anyone, but they are silent about the atrocities on their part.
    And I think you understand - the atrocities of the Japanese do not justify the atrocities of the Americans. In addition, let me remind you that concentration camps for the citizens of their country were created only by Hitler and the American authorities.
     
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    Did your grandfather rape German children? Or was your grandfather a punisher who, after the war, escaped retribution in the United States? So did many other Nazi criminals.
    Did he tell you that the Russians raped the Germans? Only this option remains. There is no other evidence for your words.
     
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    Hiroshima was chosen because it was one of the last naval bases still functioning in Japan. And no, you don't se e many military facilities.In this picture, taken after the detonation, you don't see many gas stations, apartment buildings, shops, restaurants, people, buses or automobiles either,
     
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    Ya .. Russia Raped the Germans .. and were scum buckets in General .. By good friends Grandmother - living in Romania at the time and after - did not like Russian's very much .. Romanian's in general not big fans of mother Russia .. having similar stories from their Grandmothers.
     

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