Mass killings by US forces in Afghanistan war

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    1. Once again - state the number of the case and the article on which he was convicted.
    2. What does the USSR Ministry of Justice (GULag) have to do with the citizens of Czechoslovakia?
    3. All (once again - ALL) prisoners of the Gulag system were convicted by court verdict. (not like Guantanamo or Abu Ghraib).
    And I don't understand how a citizen of Czechoslovakia could be convicted by a Soviet court?
    Was he a spy in the USSR? Or his war crimes were revealed? What were the grounds for the arrest? At the same time, a citizen of another country in a foreign country?
    You write so strange data that I do not understand much. I know well the judicial system in the Stalinist USSR, but this is the first time I have heard such data.
    You want to say that your grandfather was kidnapped by the NKVD, secretly transported to the USSR and secretly convicted? And then released or what? Do you understand how ridiculous that is?
    Besides, what year are you talking about? 1952? Stalin died on March 5, 1953. What Gulag are you talking about?
     
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    Is torture at Abu Ghraib will suit you?
    Or maybe you like the occupation of Syria and the bombing of Raqqa?
    O! You should like it - the shooting of civilians by an American helicopter at the Iraqi food market.
     
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    Raqqa was the ISIS capital. Of course it was bombed. So was Berlin and Tokyo in WWII.
    There was no torture at Abu Ghraib... unless you consider panties placed over one's head as "torture". Waterboarding isn't torture. We put our own troops through it in SERE training.
    Your Youtube link doesn't work.
     
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    Said True - Unfortunately -
    Only it must give YOU some discomfort to realize WHO the Swine are,
    ............................................................ WHO are now building the Walls

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    And murdering with Impunity
    Justice Denied For The Victims Of Afghanistan’s Mai Lai Massacre
    The US military killed civilians, lied about it, was caught and still exonerated itself.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/11/9/afghanistan-drone-strike-justice-denied


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    Duh ! - How'd dat happen ? [​IMG] - There's Blood on em ! [​IMG]

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    The Iron Curtain was intended to keep people IN the Communist sphere. Trump's WALL was intended to keep America SAFE, secure our borders, enforce immigration LAWS. Apples and Space Shuttles.
     
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    The purpose of these walls is different and people aren't getting shot off of them. The problem with them is they are unfinished.
     
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    double
     
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    Of course waterboarding is torture .. as are many of the other things done .. sometimes leading to death but, Abu-Gitmo was nothing compared to the goings on in the other torture chambers.
     
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    The damage inflicted by the atomic bombs was quite satisfactory.
     
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    That may be True - They just have to get close to them to get shot


    So - Be Informed :
    US Border Patrol Murders Mexican Teenager

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2010/06/paso-j10.html

    Israeli Government Issues “Shoot To Kill”
    in addition to using live fire and shoot to kill orders “if the Palestinians breach
    (or even approach) the security fence”


    Israeli Forces Shoot, Critically Injure Palestinian Youth
    Near Apartheid Wall

    https://www.palestinechronicle.com/...ically-injure-palestinian-youth-in-west-bank/

    BS [​IMG]
    Tell that to the Palestinians who are thrown off their lands and herded into open air prisons
    Or tell it to those abused, exploited and those economically Raped by YOUR American
    ....................................................................................... set up and sponsored Puppet Regimes

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    BS - A wall is a Wall is a WALL is a CAGE - It matters NOT in which direction it points.
    Whether you are keeping YOUR slave animals IN - or keeping those Dangerous Beasts
    whom you have exploited & abused, and who a have just cause against YOU, OUT.

    Any attempt to fabricate a difference, is simply a cheap transparent attempt to apply
    a Sick Narcassitic Perspective that would hope to Justify a vile Psychopathy,

    The Walls we describe are the same whether they point IN or OUT. And the thought,
    rationale, and motivation that went into building them is the same.

    A Malicious Will to Control and Exploit and a Psychopathic Paranoia and FEAR
    ................................................................................................................... of a Just Retribution

    So I would suggest a warm dark aromatic place to store your apples & space shuttles
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    The World Socialist Web Site.Org.
    Oh my
     
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    Where in Hell did You catch this Crap ?
    Is it a straight up LIE or is it Willful Ignorance that inspires YOU to float this Turd ? -
    .............................................................. Either way it is a PissPoor survival technique

    For starters - the USof A executed Japanese commanders who perpetrated
    ...... and ordered the unspeakable torture & WAR CRIME of Water Boarding

    SO Be informed for Christ's Sake !
    Abu Ghraib Torture And Prisoner Abuse
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse

    From The Article:
    During the early stages of the Iraq War, members of the United States Army and
    the CIA committed a series of human rights violations and war crimes against
    detainees in the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, including physical and sexual abuse,
    torture, rape, sodomy, and the killing of Manadel al-Jamadi.[1][2][3][4] The abuses
    came to public attention with the publication of photographs of the abuse by CBS
    News
    in April 2004. The incidents caused shock and outrage, receiving widespread
    condemnation within the United States and internationally


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    Waterboarding is NOT torture. Anyone who ever wore the uniform knows this. As I said earlier, many of our own troops go through waterboarding during training. It is an integral part of the training that occurs in SERE school. Your vague comment about "other torture chambers" shows you really don't have any real facts or knowledge of this subject, just a biased view from biased sources.
     
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    I have no idea what the IRON Curtain or Trump's WALL have to do with Palestinians, or the governments (regimes) in other countries, but let's continue...
    So the cage my bird lives in is there to keep ME OUT? Really? Odd way of looking at things... I'll have to tell Oscar (the bird) that we keep him in the cage to protect him from us...
    So the WALL that the Obama's have around their home is psychopathic? Be sure to let the Obamas know they need mental health help.
    And the wall that Biden put up around the White House during civil disturbances was also paranoid and psychotic? OK... if you say so... And the Biden's are narcissists because of that wall? Again... let them know...
     
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    Not going to debate whether or not waterboarding is "Torture" .. as you have no clue what you are talking about .. Waterboarding during training is a whole lot different then water boarding when you are tortuing some one .. but who cares .. I told you about real torture .. which you are clearly unaware .. showing the depth of your knowledge .. which is like 2 out of 100.

    There's Movie's on it .. you should get out of the cave once in awhile "Extra-ordinary Rendition" along with a number of other - at the time - secret prisons in other nations. Do you know what "Extra -Ordinary Rendition" is mate .. any clue in the least ?
     
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    Straight to the insults means you got nuthin.
     
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    Look, you watch movies and read left wing propaganda. I am a est Point graduate with 20 year career in the Army including service in Iraq. You are totally ignorant of things military and really have no credibility in this discussion at all. Movies INDEED! I bet you think that a big monster named Godzilla attacked New York City!
     
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    The movie comment was a joke .. but is based on reality. With Army creds like that .. you should be triple embarassed that you don't have the first clue what Extra Ordinary Rendition is

    You still going to plead the 5th or did you want to at least try to redeem what appears to be a dearth of ignorance on the topic .. Prove me wrong .. hopefully you didn't need to go to google.

    Extra-Ordinary Rendition .. Any idea what this is mate ? and do comment on "Torture" whether or not that was it ..
     
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    You're an Australian right?
     
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    You never asked me before. Gees, anyone that watches Law and Order knows. We send certain prisoners to foreign nations for interrogation. The norm is to send prisoners that are foreign nationals to those nations for interrogation.It started when we captured a terrorist who was a Pakistani national. Pakistan demanded that they interrogate their own citizen and we agreed. Its pretty common practice that when we capture a terrorist that is a citizen of an allied nation, especially those that have been teammates on our team during Desert Storm, Operation Iraqi Freedom or Operation Enduring Freedom, that we let their home nation conduct any interrogation. When their native nation makes no such request, it is common for us to detain them ourselves in such places as Guantanamo.
     
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    I'm sure he is... "G'Day mate!" and all that. Australia is throwing their own citizens in detention camps in conjunction with China Virus Tyranny operations.
     
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    Is ER torture or not are you not able to answer a simple question .. maintain a train of thought longer than one sentence from previous post . .. Do I look like a Dentist ?

    and your desription was a laughable joke .. desperate attempt to glorify Extra Ordinary Rendition to something glamorous and normal .. when this was anything but .. for anyone that has done more than watch Law and Order .. which is about as far as you have gotten thus far .. exactly the picture presented in Disney world ... where life is beautiful all the time .. We are the Cowboys .. they are the evil Indians .. Savages ..

    Such a pretty koolaid induced story your Law-Order - NCIS .. "et al" version .. little resemblence to reality

    K .. now the big question that you missed .. the Topic of conversation remember .. "Torture" No stories of Torture come your way ? Well .. suppose if one is on a beach reading the National Enquirer . that would not be likely.

    Toughie .. answering the question of previous post .. Cat Got Tongue mate... You know we are just getting started .. all kinds of fun this trip is going to be ...

    How about .. Dragging Children Over barbed wire fences .." till the flesh hung from their bones" - in front of parents - would that cut it as torture in your books .. just trying to figure where your boundary is here .. Not Waterboarding .. got it .. make someone stand outside in the cold in stress position for days .. nope .. none of that is torture. K .. How about the barbed wire ?

    OHH .. nevermind .. forget that .. was different era .. the days of Rotten Ronnie .. wild west sort of thing .. forgive my digression .. we are talking 911 aftermath .. real gold star on the history books that one was .. in DisneyLand

    Told you we would be having fun .. now over to you .. Tell us about some of the "Interrogation" - what nation .. who was doing it (that nation or were we doing it .. our little home away from home in "Pakistan" or some other flea infested abode. and what kind of wonderful interrogation methods were employed ...

    Over to you .. the floor is yours. .
     
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    Where did you get that from .. Down Under Mate ?!.. .. Your from the Moon Right !?
     
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    "dragging children over barbed wire"???? Where'd THAT come from? You are a little too far out in the void for me. Your radicalism, bias and hate of America consumes you and precludes any rational discussion. Goodbye. Tell your handlers it didn't work.
     
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    The Australian @Giftedone believes every possible worst rumor about the conduct of the United States.
     
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