Mass Vaccinations Trigger a sharp spike in cases and deaths

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    you don't have to participate.


    slander is a good indication.


    I didn't make positive claims.

    You aren't doing any science you're just posting slander on an opinion board.


    it's pretty clear that you don't you don't typically slander things they're in different too


    posting more slander against people you clearly don't like doesn't amount to an argument.


    yes indeed not that I would need your affirmation.


    so science is an important it's about how many people you can get to agree with you.




    they're repeating the same ad hominem doesn't make it any more valid.

    Focus on the topic not me


    And you say the word "you" to somebody and then make disparaging statements about that person and not the argument they're making that's exactly what you're doing.

    It's okay I take it as a compliment.
    you are still talking about me because you have to avoid the topic.

    It's an indication that you've lost the point



    Why? Why are you incapable of explaining it is it because you don't understand it?

    It is not my burden to prove your claims wrong so I'm not going to read someone else's words and then pretend like you made that argument.

    Posting links and saying go look at this is a crutch of the intellectually weak and disabled.

    If I'm right about something and I know I am I'm going to ram it in your face. I'm not going to sheepishly hide behind some link I posted. Ordering people to go off and do your homework as not how you convince people.
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    YOU are the tedious bit.

    Not elves? Prove it was slander!

    I didn't say you were.

    Now you are. A moronic claim. The science lies in that which the unscientific batshit is seeking to dispute. It is not slander to point this out. Another simple word you are having trouble with.

    Gibberish - proof read your ramblings.

    The argument lay in the evidence I posted and the identification of the lack of evidence from that which I opined on. You really are so terribly lost on this.

    With evidence to back up your statements. Peers are given such status when they have demonstrated the same level of rigor on their own research. All this in stark contrast with NOBODY agreeing, NO evidence, links to dodgy medicine with NO studied efficacy. Hmmm, you are failing quite badly here.

    You really need to read what you type before posting it. You made a bare assertion. You have demonstrated that you have no idea what you are talking about. Neither are ad hominem arguments and ad hominems are used instead of addressing content. More simple things you have picked up without understanding.

    YOU are the one who has hijacked this thread with personal observations! Go back and read your dumb first comment at me. Then go back to this post where you completely avoided the subject of it. It is why whachadoodles lie!
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ases-and-deaths.588101/page-2#post-1072835632

    Then STHU about it?

    What topic? The one you have dragged OFF topic? I said tedious, now this exchange has become pathetic.

    Identifying that you are making blunder after blunder is nothing of the sort, it observes your failure to understand basics. <----- This is based on your CONTENT. Duh.

    Because the page does something the original post it responds to does not. It gives examples, specifics and shows how the owner of the article manipulates his way to make money from the gullible.

    An extremely moronic statement. I actually couldn't give a crap what you do. Nowhere are you being requested to disprove anything I am writing. The burden for any proof in a debate lies with somebody making claims that go against cited, corroborated, peer reviewed evidence, with NONE of those things used themselves.

    Another moronic statement. The whole point of my involvement in these threads is to identify where people have done the exact thing YOU claim I am doing then to post MY links that have something tangible that theirs do not.

    This is some serious crazy crap you are posting. All based on something I posted on the previous page aimed at somebody else!

    Now explain why you didn't address the subject of my very first response to you.

    WHACKADOODLEs lie because they DO have something to gain. My response detailed EXACTLY what they have to gain and here you are making nonsensical statements and arguments, dragging this topic off subject. I gave you the sources once again that detail it and you come out with gibberish as to why you don't want to read it.

    Perhaps you should apply that same "logic" to the original crank articles!
     
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  3. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    yet you can't help responding to me.

    He thinks thou doth protest too much

    crank in the context you were using it is a slur. You intended that.


    the burden of proof falls on the person making the positive claim


    I'm not interested in your opinion.


    You didn't post any evidence.


    Popularity isn't science nether is consensus.

    And further what would I post evidence of what do you think my claims are?


    you keep saying this like you're trying to convince yourself.

    All it means is you can't make an argument.

    You have to say everyone that challenges you is somehow not understanding because you're losing the point it's an extremely common tactic and it's not very good. And it must certainly is bad faith.


    so why in the hell did you respond to me why do you keep responding to me? Takes to the tango if I derailed it you further derailed it by jumping your feet and crying about how nobody understands you.

    Don't blame me because you flunked at arguing.




    well I do enjoy twisting that particular knife.


    yet you can't resist responding soon as you dragged off topic just as much as I did but you're the only one crying about it.

    You keep telling me how tedious it is but you're clutching on to my every word.
    Big cope.


    That's how every business in the history of humanity has worked.


    and let me guess you're not going to actually address it you're just going to attack my person like you always do.
    so what's all the moaning about tedious and being off topic despite the fact that you insist on responding to me? I think you care very much what I do, again you're hanging on to my every word.
    and nowhere have I ever really even necessarily disagreed with you.


    well you haven't done much. Maybe you think you're performing on a stage but generally speaking you're not.


    Didn't care to. Post something I care to address and maybe I will. Or maybe I won't I am a bit of an antagonist

    They don't respond quite as much and they're not as funny.
     
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    The vaccines don't work and the data was falsified. I was saying the data was wrong back when it became public that the govenor of MA claimed a infant died of covid 19 after it was suffocated by its caretakers. When the truth came out the govenor on live TV told Reporters he did not actually know why the baby died.

    So many believe the data and don't even know they are being lied to.

    I refuse to put a experimental virus in my to fight a virus. I refuse to be one of those people that has to do it because everyone's doing it or peer pressure. If you can still get covid there is no point.

    My vaccine is my own immune system and that works great for me.
     
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    It's tribalism. People of one political persuasion believe one thing and people of another believe something else.

    The best way to get to the truth is consult a disinterested third party. The data curve gets a lot wider when politics aren't riding on it.

    But they really really really really want you to get the vaccine for some reason. They'll lie and say it's too protect others which is not as vaccinated can still carry and transmit the virus the delta variant and most likely the ace of spades maga evil death variant they'll start hyping once everybody realizes how full of **** they are on the Delta.
     
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    People that have had the virus know it won't harm them. A sore throat but being able to taste things for a couple of days, rather interesting games created... What can't you smell. But unless you are 90 years old or have some sort of life threatening condition is not an issue.

    I have noticed lingering distaste for turkey. Idk.
     
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    My wife had it for one day and I never got sick. Drinking plenty of water and taking multi vitamins helps alot.

    I agree with you on both of your posts. I will never take the vaccine even if they threaten to kill me. They can shove that vaccine where the sun don't shine.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    I had a fever for a day and a bit of respiratory congestion. It was different than other colds. But others in my household never had any symptoms.

    My only reluctance on the vaccine is in not sure it's necessary. Covid was mild.
     
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    Right here, we have the top problem. Your opening statement is bare assertion. Your link points to fake news websites with hearsay as your "proof" that peer review is not perfect. Nobody suggests peer review is perfect. When somebody submits a paper and spends considerable time putting together evidence, it has to be given some sort of check. people who are experienced in this matter will verify the links, any scientific statements and look at the documented evidence.

    For you to take isolated hearsay and use that to dismiss a whole regime of verifiable science is as ignorant as you can get. It is made ten times worse by the fact that you not only dismiss EVERY piece of science that contradicts your endless supply of conspiracy garbage, but put forward links and articles that contain not one iota of verifiable data, citations or credible information. THIS, you automatically believe and defend, no matter what.
     
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    I'm stubborn like that.

    Conspiracy gibberish. You began this and have still not addressed the opening ON TOPIC post I made!

    Correct, but I also gave links that demonstrate this to be the case. Now, you need to run along and learn what slander is. Because you clearly do not! If there was an issue where I was unfairly berating anybody in written form, it would be libel, not slander. As I said, you don't know what you are talking about.

    Just plain dumb. The burden of proof lies with the person making the outlandish claim, unsupported with no evidence!

    Likewise.

    Yes I did, you made lots of noise and refused to read it.

    Correct, but accuracy is. Without accuracy checking, horseshit ensues.

    I don't care what your claims are. In terms of this pathetic discussion, it was referencing the exchange you poked your nose into.

    Once again more opinion driven nonsense. You don't know what narcissism is, you don't know what slander is, you don't know what an ad hominem is, you don't respond to direct requests, you don't know what the burden of proof is and all you are doing is deliberately disrupting this topic with off topic crap.

    Your response makes no sense to what you quoted. I point out that you completely avoided the content of the post and you come out with gibberish about why I respond to you? Once again, you said what have whackadoodles to gain (a pejorative term) that you had no problem using. I listed what they had to gain and you ignored this in favour of making lots of noise.

    Perhaps you think your useless debate skills are somehow better than they are.

    Says the tedious poster doing likewise. You began it and have still yet to respond to the on topic post that began this!

    Bullshit and irrelevant. You asked why the whackadoodles lied, I gave you a reason and backed it up with significant evidence pointing to one owner of many crank websites.

    Another moronic statement as immediately after I did just that!

    "The burden for any proof in a debate lies with somebody making claims that go against cited, corroborated, peer reviewed evidence, with NONE of those things used themselves."

    You poor little thing.

    Says the tedious poster doing likewise. You began it and have still yet to respond to the on topic post that began this!

    WTF! You've done nothing but.

    That's translated as a troll.


    It's like talking with a brick wall. Try again.

    You said "I'm not going to sheepishly hide behind some link I posted. Ordering people to go off and do your homework as not how you convince people."

    I said Perhaps you should apply that same "logic" to the original crank articles! It's nothing to do with responses and everything to do with that dumb statement.
     
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    The crazy circular "reasoning" of a conspiracy theorist.

    Should we keep it in mind when quoting crank websites owned by the same people making lots of money from foolish and gullible people?
     
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    I've told you this before. You seem to have a foregone conclusion when you look at controversial issues. You seem to have a naive willingness to believe when you look at mainstream info and an a priori incredulity when you look at alternative info. You want the official version to be true hell or high water. An intelligent objective truth-seeker has neither a foregone conclusion, nor a naive willingness to believe, nor an a priori incredulity. He or she just looks at the evidence to see where it leads.
     
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    You have no relevant qualifications to tell me anything.

    Yes, it is this. Trust the science with evidence. Distrust batshit with none. You, however, always seek out that which confirms your bullshit beliefs.

    Your opinion on this is meaningless. It is YOU who automatically follow NO reasoning, NO scientific method and suck up anything that goes against the mainstream. It is ridiculous that you post so many links without verifying any of it or worse, even close to understanding it!

    The reverse of this is true. I believe that which has clear evidence for.

    You are none of those.

    Yet that perfectly describes your disposition to anything batshit.

    You only look for evidence that reinforces where you have already been led. You discard anything that doesn't reinforce it.
     
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    That's funny you called me tedious. Your posts keep expanding and expanding only to repeat the same thing over and over again.
     
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    So what. You are.

    That is because they are replies to you doing the very same thing. Tell me about slander, and how it relates to the written word.
     
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    I guess you just enjoy tedious things.

    I find your diarrhea of the mouth tedious therefore I mock it. You try to argue the mockery.

    I think you have a bit of an issue of calling the kettle black


    Noticed when I found that you're too hard-headed do you have a discussion I changed my tact there's a difference between genius and insanity you are aware of that right?
     
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    No.

    Troll.

    And again, trolling.

    Try not to think, your conclusions are fairly useless.

    Nothing you "notice" has any substance.

    I'm aware that you made a claim about slander when it pertains to verbal exchanges and we are on a written message board. I am aware that your clumsy mistake is not being conceded. You don't know what narcissism is and you don't know what an ad hominem is.
     
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    Clearly you find me captivating.

    All you have is denial and character attacks.
     
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    Tell me about my "slander".
     
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    Joining in with the trolling. Answer the numerous posts aimed at you spammer. You point to a post that identifies you posting off topic crap, there's nothing empty about it. The irony of you posting empty rhetoric to suggest that's what I do.
     
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    Maybe you should consult the dictionary
     
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    I had no need to consult a dictionary. You said I was slandering people with my written comments, that is libel.

    It never changes. Even on the most minor of points, people with "alternative" views are unable to admit their errors.
     
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    So you admit it? That's good
    I made an error and typing I said the slander when I really meant libel.

    Further I'm not the one with alternative views.
     

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