Mass Vaccinations Trigger a sharp spike in cases and deaths

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    Nextdoor.com

    It's a website via which neighbors in one's own town/community can publicly share info. I do not visit often. Most of it is about jobs, shopping, dining, lost pets, etc. But I do get emails alerting me when there has been a neighbor post something new and the title/subject of the neighbor's post is in the email.

    Today I was looking through those emails from the past week or so. There were a couple of posts urging people to wear masks. There was one neighbor who said her fully vaccinated husband is in ICU with covd breathing problems and she was asking for neighbors to pray.

    There was a different neighbor who posted with big headlines that said Read this before you get the covid vaccine. I know this is controversial but please read all of my post before commenting. Then one must click the email link to read her full comment and any follow-up comments by other neighbors. The email said there were over 130 follow-up comments. But when I clicked the link to go to Nextdoor.com to find out what my neighbor said about the covid vaccine that was "controversial" and what the follow-up comments were... there was only a blank page with Nextdoor's comment that the post/comments everything had been removed. No explanation why, but I suspect it's censorship.

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    https://sarahwestall.com/federal-la...significantly-under-reporting-vaccine-deaths/
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    The 67-page motion requests the judge issue a preliminary injunction pursuant to § 360bbb–3(b)(1)(C) for the following reasons:

    • There is no emergency, which is a prerequisite to issuing EUA and EUA renewals for COVID vaccines.
    • There is “no serious or life-threatening disease or condition.”
    • Vaccines do not diagnose, treat or prevent SARS-CoV-2 or COVID.
    • Known and potential risks of the vaccine outweigh their known and potential benefits.
    • There are adequate, approved and available alternatives to vaccines.
    • Healthcare professionals and vaccine candidates are not adequately informed.
    The authors of the motion attached a declaration by a whistleblower who came forward alleging deaths occurring within 72 hours of receiving a COVID vaccine are significantly under-reported in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) maintained by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

    Tell Schools/Universities No Vaccine Mandates for Children/Young Adults!
    As of July 9, reported deaths in the VAERS totaled 10,991. Of those, 4,593 occurred within 72-hours of vaccination.
    The whistleblower — a computer programmer who developed more than 100 distinct healthcare fraud algorithms, and who has expertise in healthcare data analytics that allows her to access Medicare and Medicaid data obtained by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Systems (CMS) — filed a sworn statement under penalty of perjury alleging the actual number of COVID vaccine-related deaths is closer to 45,000.

    The whistleblower alleged that VAERS, while extremely useful, is under-reported by a conservative factor of at least five.

    In her statement, she said:

    “On July 9, 2021, there were 9,048 deaths reported in VAERS. I verified these numbers by collating all of the data from VAERS myself, not relying on a third party to report them. In tandem, I queried data from CMS medical claims with regard to vaccines and patient deaths, and have assessed that the deaths occurring within 3 days of vaccination are higher than those reported in VAERS by a factor of at least 5. This would indicate the true number of vaccine-related deaths was at least 45,000. Put in perspective, the swine flu vaccine was taken off the market which only resulted in 53 deaths.”
     
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    Vernon Coleman is peddling played-out Covid-19 conspiracy theories
    The coronavirus crisis is labelled variously as a "plandemic" or a "scamdemic". Those who do not believe are urged to "wake up!", and material is distributed invariably with a plea to "share this with everybody before it gets taken down!".

    And in that, we get a hint of their motivations. In the social media age, the share is the most quantifiable currency. It not only brings new names to the fore, it grants renewed momentum to discredited and vengeful public figures such as Judy Mikovitz, and it resurrects relics like David Icke -- and Vernon Coleman.

    https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion...-chair-pulling-rabbits-from-his-bag-of-truths
     
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    What do you think of the info in the link I posted?
     
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    You need to logoff and find another hobby. One that doesn't involve the equivalent of smearing faeces on a toilet wall.
     
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    Translation:

    That info is such clear proof that the vaccine is a poison that I'll just look silly if I try to obfuscate it so I'd better avoid addressing it even though that makes me look silly too.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ases-and-deaths.588101/page-4#post-1072873377
     
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    Is this why you avoid so many posts?

    It's clear proof that you believe anything. The numbers! Look at the numbers you clown.

    He offers 100/200/300 or whatever. NONE show causation. Not one of them. They show suspicion from the recipient and correlation with proximity to time given. As has already been pointed out to you:-

    Correlation vs. Causation | Writing & Research in the Disciplines (lumenlearning.com)

    See the graph? That's the kind of batshit you are repeating. Billions have had the MMR vaccines and you want to show me your "clear proof" - pathetic.


    Cosmored/Fatfreddy88/Drifty/Scott/Rocky has a whole series of evasion tactics :-

    1. For images or video: "Nothing that's fakable can be used as proof as it might be fake."

    He will never apply this moronic circular logic to his own images and videos. He will never actually prove it is faked or offer the number of people involved in such.

    2. For websites: "It's possible that your sites are genuine and it's possible that some public-relations agency created them to help fool the public. Something that may or may not be bogus can't be used as proof." Source.
    or
    "That's a disinfo site."

    He will never apply this moronic circular logic to his own appallingly inept websites. He will never address any website that solidly refutes his claims. He never offers any proof that any website is "disinfo" or "public-relations".

    3. For Expert Testimony: "Only a person with a high background in photography would be able to deal with it "

    For "photography" insert anything. He is a layman on everything associated with space travel so uses this evasion tactic frequently. Basically if he doesn't understand it, it is ignored and of course the person providing the information must automatically be in on the moronic hoax.

    4. For Rebuttal: "...so we already know what you posted is sophistry. "
    or
    "I can't say I'm one hundred percent sure he's a paid disinfo agent but his behavior fits the profile perfectly."

    This enables him to completely ignore any response, which he routinely does anyway, but throws this in for effect. Needless to say, he will never offer anything to backup his ad hominem statement.

    5. Miscellaneous: ".anyone who sees it will see that he's just a paid sophist."

    This is probably the worst one of all. For this enormous diversionary statement, he gets to ignore every single thing written by an expert in almost every aspect of the Apollo Missions. He gets to ignore a concise website detailing debunks for almost all his total crap. He gets to ignore every post made where he always get his ass handed to him. The basis for this is his "credibility test".

    6. Credibility Test: "This calls for a credibility test. XXXXXXX maintains that the Chinese spacewalk was real and not faked in a water tank. Do you agree with him?

    This is where the spammer uses one of his pre-determined idiotic conspiracies or erroneous claims as the yardstick for a credibility test. He is the arbitrator of its provenance therefore anyone who disagrees with it can now be referred to as "discredited" and all their rebuttal can be ignored.

    7. When all else fails: "I think the rest are moot now that you`ve been discredited and there are a lot of clear anomalies that prove the footage ...."

    So when he routinely gets his claim debunked, it is "moot" because of "all the others". It never occurs to him that all the other evidence has been debunked and was also "moot" when it was addressed. When pushed to provide a list of items to address, at all costs he will not do this because it can be seen where they have all been debunked.

    8. Just deny everything: "I've never seen it debunked. I've seen people try to obfuscate it and then consider it to have been debunked." or "I can't see what you're referring to."

    He's never seen ANYTHING debunked? An utterly ludicrous statement that he uses based on his own inept layman understanding. His ignorance apart, he seeks to pigeon hole every single debunk into responses that he says are diversion, because he says so. Or, he simply denies seeing something that is completely irrefutably obvious.

    9. Idiotic Closes: "You'd get laughed out of the debating hall ..."

    or

    "you're about as impressive as the Black Knight in this video"


    The sheer irony of this is always lost on him. If ever there was somebody who behaved like the Black Knight - as his arm gets chopped off it's a "moot point" it would be this serial forum spammer. There is not a debating environment on this planet where this person would show up to. He knows more than anyone that he would get the floor wiped with his drivel.

    10. Divert/Obfuscate/Re-spam: This is where he avoids the item completely and gish-gallops away with repeated spam. Almost certainly he will keep avoiding the original claim.

    11. Never mind that - look over here: When this hopeless individual has exhausted his inept repertoire of responses comes his most used spam. He resorts to spamming his wall of crap and ignoring the main issue!
    "Anyway, there's a ton of proof that the missions were faked and zero proof that they were real."

    "This lame stand of your totally exposes you as a shill*"

    "It just makes you look like a horse's a-s and the viewers can see it. I don't see any point in my continuing to reiterate this."


    What a sad, sad liar this person is. They have been humiliated completely on dozens of subjects, thousands of times on Apollo, yet they spew this cut and paste hogwash almost every time.
    12. Credibility Referbacks: When this hopeless individual has no answers he often resorts to just one liners concerning previous bullshit "Credibility Tests".

    "You've already said some pretty lame things so your judgement is obviously flawed."

    "....said the Man who tried to obfuscate the clear evidence of the Chinese Spacewalk"

    13. Moronic Translations: This is the ridiculous post where he interprets his crazy viewpoint on something regardless of how many times it has already been addressed. It usually has some bearing on his equally moronic "Credibility Tests".
    "Translation: The proof that the Chinese spacewalk is so clear that I'll just look silly if I try to obfuscate it so I'd better avoid addressing it."

    This person has been doing all of the above across 100's of forums for (best guess) coming up to 17 years. He cuts and pastes duplicate posts, responses, key phrases and dismissal videos. He determines any one or more of the above and posts them out, then slams a huge post with repeated and debunked bullshit. There is simply no level of response that can get through to somebody who has terminal Dunning and Kruger syndrome.
     
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    How about you stop spamming your batshit across multiple threads then we won't need to keep repeating things you never reply to or understand!

    How a CDC Database Is Fueling Global Anti-Vaccination Sentiment - Harvard Political Review (harvardpolitics.com)

    "The CDC describes VAERS as a “passive reporting system.” Pre-dating the internet, the VAERS database has virtually no guards against its potential role as a source of “fake news” and is credulous of even the most fanciful claims of COVID-19 vaccine side-effects. VAERS reports “can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members.” The CDC acknowledges the “quality and completeness” of reports “often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.” Beyond that disclaimer, the CDC tries to ensure its readers know the data is inaccurate by offering users terms and conditions, which are presumably mostly unread, and a checkbox to acknowledge their contents. A federal agency seeking to disabuse citizens of the expectation that government health databases are accurate should be an indicator for the CDC that VAERS has a serious problem.

    With reported deaths linked to the COVID-19 vaccine on this database at such high levels, the CDC must confront the likely prospect that anti-vaccine activists are purposely submitting false reports to inflate mortality numbers and heighten community fears over the coronavirus vaccine. A cursory search of social media shows those who are spreading the VAERS data have paid little heed to the agency’s disclaimers. Indeed, Facebook posts seen by the HPR with hundreds of engagements include the same verbatim instructions, copy and pasted, for users to disregard disclaimers."
     
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    Rant all you want. This info has you checkmated.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ases-and-deaths.588101/page-4#post-1072873377

    As I've said before, it's probable that not all cases of injury and death due to the vaccine are getting reported. The real numbers are probably much higher. I know of several people who got pretty sick for several days after getting the vaccine and I know of one person whose foot got swollen shortly afterwards so high numbers are consistent with what I see in life. The theory that some people are getting placebos* may turn out to be true. That would increase the percentage of injuries and deaths.


    *
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...nstead-of-the-vaccine.591094/#post-1072858541
     
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    The spammer ignores responses and makes his cut and paste "check mate" horseshit. You are the archetypal pigeon playing chess. Crap on the board and knock over all the pieces.

    How about you stop spamming your batshit across multiple threads then we won't need to keep repeating things you never reply to or understand!

    How a CDC Database Is Fueling Global Anti-Vaccination Sentiment - Harvard Political Review (harvardpolitics.com)

    "The CDC describes VAERS as a “passive reporting system.” Pre-dating the internet, the VAERS database has virtually no guards against its potential role as a source of “fake news” and is credulous of even the most fanciful claims of COVID-19 vaccine side-effects. VAERS reports “can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members.” The CDC acknowledges the “quality and completeness” of reports “often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.” Beyond that disclaimer, the CDC tries to ensure its readers know the data is inaccurate by offering users terms and conditions, which are presumably mostly unread, and a checkbox to acknowledge their contents. A federal agency seeking to disabuse citizens of the expectation that government health databases are accurate should be an indicator for the CDC that VAERS has a serious problem.

    With reported deaths linked to the COVID-19 vaccine on this database at such high levels, the CDC must confront the likely prospect that anti-vaccine activists are purposely submitting false reports to inflate mortality numbers and heighten community fears over the coronavirus vaccine. A cursory search of social media shows those who are spreading the VAERS data have paid little heed to the agency’s disclaimers. Indeed, Facebook posts seen by the HPR with hundreds of engagements include the same verbatim instructions, copy and pasted, for users to disregard disclaimers."
    How a CDC Database Is Fueling Global Anti-Vaccination Sentiment - Harvard Political Review (harvardpolitics.com)

    "The CDC describes VAERS as a “passive reporting system.” Pre-dating the internet, the VAERS database has virtually no guards against its potential role as a source of “fake news” and is credulous of even the most fanciful claims of COVID-19 vaccine side-effects. VAERS reports “can be submitted voluntarily by anyone, including healthcare providers, patients, or family members.” The CDC acknowledges the “quality and completeness” of reports “often lack details and sometimes can have information that contains errors.” Beyond that disclaimer, the CDC tries to ensure its readers know the data is inaccurate by offering users terms and conditions, which are presumably mostly unread, and a checkbox to acknowledge their contents. A federal agency seeking to disabuse citizens of the expectation that government health databases are accurate should be an indicator for the CDC that VAERS has a serious problem.

    With reported deaths linked to the COVID-19 vaccine on this database at such high levels, the CDC must confront the likely prospect that anti-vaccine activists are purposely submitting false reports to inflate mortality numbers and heighten community fears over the coronavirus vaccine. A cursory search of social media shows those who are spreading the VAERS data have paid little heed to the agency’s disclaimers. Indeed, Facebook posts seen by the HPR with hundreds of engagements include the same verbatim instructions, copy and pasted, for users to disregard disclaimers."


    Ignorant opinion - irrelevant.

    You spammed that on the other thread. Hearsay. I know of every person in my circle too, none had any adverse reaction. Also hearsay.

    Moronic circular reasoning.

    Moronic batshit with zero evidence.

    Moronic circular reasoning
     
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    I don't see how these pro-vax posters can just ignore info such as this.

    Nearly 15,000 Deaths, More Than 700,000 Injuries Reported to VAERS Since December 2020 Rollout of COVID Vaccines in U.S.
    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vaers-cdc-covid-deaths-vaccine-injuries/

    Exclusive: Physician ‘Horribly Injured’ After Pfizer Vaccine Pleads With Top U.S. Public Health Officials for Help — and Gets None
    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/dr-danice-hertz-injured-pfizer-covid-vaccine/


    Be sure to check out the comment sections.
     
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    Stop right there. You ignore responses. Just above this latest piece of off topic spam is a detailed rebuttal that has been ignored - a HARVARD report. Please don't make yourself even more ridiculous by dismissing it, when you yourself misquoted Harvard Pilgrim as some sort of authority!
     
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    Idiot Doctor makes baseless claims whilst promoting untested cocktail of drugs on his patients
    https://www.batshit.com/2021/lunatic-tests-drugs-on-his-patients

    Fact Check: COVID Vaccine Is Not Rated 'Toxic,' No Evidence For 'Eugenics' Conspiracy Theory | Lead Stories
    "None of the COVID-19 vaccines approved for use in the United States were declared in the third quarter of 2021 to be toxic or even dangerous by the thousands of medical practitioners caring for the surge of cases at that time. Nor have medical researchers accountable for their claims and watched by their peers published research declaring the vaccines are toxic.

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends that anyone over age 12 be vaccinated using the vaccines developed by Moderna, Pfizer and Janssen/J&J. While the safety of the Moderna, Pfizer and Janssen vaccines has been documented in peer-reviewed studies published in professionally edited medical science journals, the claim that it is toxic and a type of human sacrifice is made without data, without peer-reviewed research and without the kind of worldwide news coverage that would immediately result if the vaccine given to hundreds of millions of people were found to be toxic.

    The headline over the video summarizes the claim made in the video by Dr. Zev Zelenko, who identifies himself as a family practitioner in a small community mostly inhabited by Hasidic Jews in upstate New York: Kiryas Joel. Zelenko rose to fame after conservative media helped him sell a $20 purported COVID-19 treatment called "Z-Stack.""
     
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    PROVE IT!


    Says who?

    Ignored as usual:

     
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    Crimes against humanity: Over 2.1 million vaccine injuries reported to WHO over just the last nine months
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-11-million-vaccine-injuries-reported-who-nine-months.html
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    In the United States, an attorney named Thomas Renz is leading a lawsuit that seeks to end covid vaccine tyranny. Sworn testimony from a person working in the healthcare data analytics industry, alleges that vaccine injuries are “under-reported by a conservative factor of at least 5.” According to hard data revealed by the Medicare Tracking System, the total number of American citizens who died within 14 days of receiving the covid-19 vaccine is 48,465. These deaths are covered up by the CDC. The CDC allows hospitals to code the deaths as “unvaccinated deaths” because a person isn’t considered “fully vaccinated” until 14 days have passed since their second injection.
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    ATTORNEY THOMAS RENZ "We Got Them. Fact Check This!" ALL NEW WHISTLEBLOWER INFO
    https://rumble.com/vn12v1-attorney-..._hixwJAvjNnrsdB-8uWqK4ADNTItWNttzadgdYXxuifys


    Why are people dying after getting the Covid vaccine? Pathologists now have answers.
    https://rivercitymalone.com/health/pathologists-investigate-deaths-after-covid-vaccination/
     
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    Crimes against humanity: Batshit forum spammers spread disinfo, lies and fake-news.

    Sadly, there appears to be no end to the crazy person who keeps spamming unverified batshit.

    Batshit claim about people dying after getting the Covid vaccine

    In a ludicrous article, the figure of 4 thousand unverified, uncorrelated deaths is inflated to 150,000 through multiplying it by some pulled out the butt figure! Notwithstanding that any under-reporting is also certainly not related to deaths, probably to mild flu symptoms and also uncorrelated!

    See batshit post batshit.
     
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    See batshit, post batshit. That is the same plagiarized article as the last spam link. 4,000 deaths multiplied by some produced from the butt figure to "account" for unreported reactions.

    Don't address me spammer, this is a public forum.

    No.

    Zero. The little problem of causation and correlation, allied to the number of people who die anyway, and those who catch the virus. People like you are just trolls who splatter batshit over the internet because you have no education on anything related to what you read or post about. It's all so very pathetic.
     
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