MASSIVE GUN STUDY CONCLUDES: ‘Murder Rates Rise When Guns Are Banned’

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  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Let's assume you're correct for the sake of argument. Can I live with "dangerous freedom" as opposed to "peaceful slavery"? Yes, yes I can.
     
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    The anti gun left often sees legal gun ownership and gun owners to be more a threat, and a bigger enemy, than criminals with guns. We pro gun advocates vote against left wing politicians who use gun control to pander to the slow witted voters (who want fast solutions to complex criminal issues). Criminals rarely vote, and when they do, it is not for conservative office holders.
     
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    Those who want to ban some, are supporters and facilitators of those who want to ban all.
     
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    I was reading down and burst out laughing when I got to Harold Shipman. Is this thread serious? Is it in the humour section?
     
  5. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    You mean only the police, those people the leftist mob accuses of shooting the unarmed, take to the streets in violent protest and that when police are ambushed and killed, the mob, with a wink and a nod, raise no eyebrow? Only they should be armed?
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    And what would be the standard for training?
    Millions upon millions of gun owners are trained and train on an ongoing basis. Some like me have decades of experience and training and many of those conduct training.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    One of John Lott’s highly Leftist criticized studies indicated that somewhere between 500k and 2.5 million GSDs a year happen with no shots fired, but that is dependent on having a tool of deterrence... ; using GCA type of math, not only is 500k-2.5m lives potential victims saved, but an equal amount of criminal lives are potentially saved as well.
     
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    That's one to one, in many cases a father or what's becoming more common is a single mother, lawfully using a gun, can not only thwart being killed he/she can also prevent an entire family from being attacked and or killed.

    What many in law enforcement understand and have seen, is something CGA's cannot even fathom... that is walking into a crime scene and finding a young mother in a pool of blood in a hallway, in another room a couple of children on the floor in the same condition and then the kick in the gut, in moms bedroom, an infant in a crib who had it's throat cut.

    I walked through that scene and could somewhat rationalize the mother and her two daughters being killed, the criminal obviously wanted no witness's left alive, but the infant... none of us could rationalize why.

    Detectives got a break, a knife with blood on it was found on the floor of the bedroom, the scene was secured and a search warrant applied for.

    Turned out the murderer was mom's ex-boyfriend and he eventually confessed to the crime, but why did he stab everyone... it had nothing to do with witness's, he wasn't going to let mom take his baby away from him and killing mom and the girls was just something he felt he had to do.

    Now for an interesting twist, after that search warrant was issued, detectives went over the apartment from floor to ceiling and in the process discovered a receipt from a local gun store, mom was on her second day of a mandatory waiting period, she was in the process of buying a gun and only had one more day to go.

    Would having that gun prevented the crimes, no one can say, but she would have had a better tool versus trying to stop the guy with her hands which according to the ME based on her injuries did attempt to fight the guy.
     
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    Exactly, it's about power, and disarming the sheeple.
     
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