Massive increase in Black Americans murdered was result of defund police movement: experts

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by TheAngryLiberal, Apr 19, 2022.

  1. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    109,943
    Likes Received:
    37,653
    Trophy Points:
    113
    -Thats what the op says. The issue isn’t their funding, it’s their feelings
     
  2. American

    American Newly Registered

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2015
    Messages:
    256
    Likes Received:
    186
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Gender:
    Male
    Can you dispute the analyses discussed in the Fox article?
     
  3. TheAngryLiberal

    TheAngryLiberal Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2010
    Messages:
    4,076
    Likes Received:
    4,775
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sure! pretend that this massive increase in Blacks being murdered has nothing to do with Defund the Police policies Liberals have been pushing upon American society. If there was an article stating that there was a 43% increase in Blacks being murdered and that Donald Trump was responsible, Liberal Democrats would be celebrating and doing backflips if they could make that correlation, but all this nonsense is happening while Joe Biden is President and Democrats control Congress and in cities run by Democrats and it's not by accident that violent crime is way up because of their policies and that Black people are suffering the most from Black on Black murder.
     
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2022
  4. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2012
    Messages:
    15,954
    Likes Received:
    7,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I wouldn't be surprised if it increased murder rates across the board.

    Defund The Police is probably the dumbest political idea that I have heard in my entire adult life.
     
  5. Veni Vidi Vici

    Veni Vidi Vici Newly Registered

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2022
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    36
    Trophy Points:
    18
    BLM is based on horrific lies of an epidemic of unarmed blacks killed by cops for unjustified reasons.

    The Real epidemic is in Democratic Party urban decay shitholes where blacks slaughter blacks like its Mogadishu 24/7.
     
  6. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    22,146
    Likes Received:
    14,903
    Trophy Points:
    113
    BLM is a communist front group. The Leftists will never abandon it.
     
  7. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    13,629
    Likes Received:
    10,018
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That’s not true. When you allow cops to go to jail for defending against violent defenders then why would they risk their freedoms to stop them?
     
    Steve N and roorooroo like this.
  8. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    109,943
    Likes Received:
    37,653
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It’s their job. You may be ok with cops killing citizens on accident but most of us aren’t.
     
  9. Joe knows

    Joe knows Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2021
    Messages:
    13,629
    Likes Received:
    10,018
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Accident is a relative term. When I see videos of how fast a cop can be killed I define accident differently than you. And it’s definitely not criminal. Assaulting and resisting will always lead to a higher suspicion of a weapon within their grasp as well. This is what people wanted, cops to be less intrusive. That’s what they’re getting. They will never risk their freedoms over as you say… an accident.
     
    Steve N and roorooroo like this.
  10. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2015
    Messages:
    13,657
    Likes Received:
    11,959
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And it’s not just fewer police. It’s also prosecutors who are acting like defense attorneys, the elimination of bail, and less punishment after being found guilty.

    But I look at cities with these exploding murder rates that are invariably run by progressive liberals, and I blame the voters.

    “This is what you voted for.”

     
  11. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2021
    Messages:
    8,556
    Likes Received:
    11,638
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I feel for blacks who are used as political pawns by some from the opportunistic left. Must suck finding out they've been had.
     
    hawgsalot, FrankCapua and roorooroo like this.
  12. apexofpurple

    apexofpurple Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2018
    Messages:
    5,552
    Likes Received:
    7,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nah, just the predictable results of prog ideology.

    Prog ideology is simple but there is one thing about progs themselves that I haven't yet been able to understand: Why they don't like their own ideology. If you see a prog standing on the edge of a pool screaming about how they need to dive in and you tell them they're going to get wet, they get mad. If you tell other people that the prog is screaming about needing to dive into the pool, they get mad. When the prog dives in and gets wet and you point that out, they get mad. When the prog is mad about being wet and you tell them it was obviously going to happen, they get mad.

    Progs hate their own ideology. They hate hearing about what its going to do, they hate it when its repeated back to them, and they hate it when the consequences come due. And yet, progs still dive into that ideology head first. Why? I don't freakin get it. Progs all stood around demanding police be defunded, demanding police stand down, demanding police not engage in policing and now that the consequences -which were freaking obvious- have come due... progs are mad. OWN YOUR **** PROGS! Fkin hell...
     
  13. Moolk

    Moolk Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2020
    Messages:
    19,283
    Likes Received:
    14,619
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Darwinism.
     
    HurricaneDitka likes this.
  14. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    77,023
    Likes Received:
    51,729
    Trophy Points:
    113
    HOW IT STARTED: Defund the police: What it means for Denver and who supports it.

    —The Denver Post, June 10th, 2020.

    How it’s going: ‘It’s Not Worth It’: HVAC Company Says It Will No Longer Service Customers in Downtown Denver.

    Those Chickens are coming home to roost.
    https://instapundit.com/519907/
     
    Last edited: May 12, 2022
    Steve N and HurricaneDitka like this.
  15. Tipper101

    Tipper101 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2008
    Messages:
    6,035
    Likes Received:
    3,180
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Pathetic the pile of whiney mewling 5-year old excuses the Libs on this board give. This isn’t rational discussion, it’s just blanket denial of the obvious backed by absolutely nothing.
     
    roorooroo likes this.
  16. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    78,926
    Likes Received:
    19,950
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Cuz the the white supremacists wouldn't help.
     
  17. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    78,926
    Likes Received:
    19,950
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Agree.
    What do you think the top 3 problems that blacks have that should be addressed?
     
  18. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    16,472
    Likes Received:
    13,032
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gangs, families, education.
     
    Steve N likes this.
  19. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Messages:
    34,682
    Likes Received:
    11,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What about when they are coerced into guilty pleas?

    You did realize that the system routinely coerces people, didn't you?

    more explanation here for anyone that extremely naive:
    Pleading guilty does NOT mean that person is guilty
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2022
  20. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    24,390
    Likes Received:
    15,532
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Lol…does that mean that right wingers now support the defund police movement?
     
  21. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    16,472
    Likes Received:
    13,032
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do you ever stop with the race baiting? Take off your partisan blinders dude. They do not make you look good at all. Quite the opposite actually. They make you look worse than those you're trying to denigrate.
     
    glitch, roorooroo and Steve N like this.
  22. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nowhere does the article say that defunding the police led to less police that could have prevented murder.
    As far as I can see, there hasn't been any research done on it at all even.
    The "expert" who said this, is an ex-cop whose instituted has been hired by the police force before.


    Seems this is just somebody saying it's an expert and is a BLM hater.
     
  23. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    1) because stop and searching "random" vehicles lead to 2 conclusions. They are stopping black people far more often. White people got a higher % of having a law problem. It's also a fact that a lot of crime is drug related and white people are punching above their weight with drug related crimes, but due to racist profiling they wrongfully have been targeting black people over this for decades.
    2) the entire world saw how the predominantly white police force has a very high bar on when to kill a violent white individual on jan the 6th, while the whole world also witnessed where that bar is at for a handcuffed black suspect.
    3) It's far more risky to collect garbage as a profession. While nothing suggests that bringing in a black suspect is more dangerous than a white one. Where is the proof of that?
    4) The opposite is the truth. Prosecutors are statistically eager to ask for higher verdicts when the suspect is black, and so black people end up longer behind bars then white people who did the same crime, under the same circumstances with the same background etc etc. It's part of systemic racist US of A. Black people know and had enough of being treated 2nd class.
    5) see point 4.


    So to add up: cops need to show that in the statistics that they are treating black people the same way as white people. You're free to show how this is working out.
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2022
  24. ShadowX

    ShadowX Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2014
    Messages:
    12,949
    Likes Received:
    6,727
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We told you that was going to happen lol

    Its not that they’re butthurt, it’s that nobody in their right mind is going to put themselves in a position where they could either be killed by a potentially aggressive violent criminal or possibly sent to prison for life in the course of arresting said aggressive violent criminal.

    I wouldn’t do it. Would you? I DAMN sure wouldn’t do it for $35-$75k per year. Would you?
     
    Last edited: May 13, 2022
    roorooroo likes this.
  25. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2010
    Messages:
    109,943
    Likes Received:
    37,653
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So they’ll only do their job if they can break the law with impunity? Hard pass.
     

Share This Page