Massive increase in Black Americans murdered was result of defund police movement: experts

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  1. Buri

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    why?
     
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    It has to do with overpolicing black people for being black.
    I don't see you disputing that white drivers have more problems with the law than black drivers, yet black drivers are stopped far more.
    I also don't see you disputing that white people do equal to even more drugs than black people, yet black people are arrested and convicted far more often.

    That 54% of all violent crimes, that's just the % who the justice system convicts. The same system who hunts black people when driving / doing drugs while white peopel are the bigger criminal.

    Seems you forgot about that racist part, huh. lol
     
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    When one race is 3 times more per capita than any other race to commit violent crimes, that means they are 3 times more likely to have law enforcement interdiction.
    The numbers speak for themselves.
    If 13% of one race commits 13% of all violent crimes, you would have a point.
    But when 13% of one race commits 54% of all violent crimes, you're just being silly with your post.
     
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    Again. Your data is about who the cops arrest and who gets sentenced.
    When other data shows that even though the cops and the DA get more black people sentenced on drugs related charges by a massive margin, that it still is the white people who do more drugs... then the cops and the DA have been caught apply institutionalized racism. And this is what is going on. The DA together with the judges also get black people sentenced systematically harsher by a good amount under the exact same circumstances. That too is proving there is a systemic system going on against black people. Same thing with who the cops end up stopping while driving. They predominantly stop black people, while white people are statistically more worth their while. They analyzed almost a 100 million traffic stops.... where they even found that black people get stopped less when it's dark, and so conclude that cops have a hard time being racist when they can't see who is driving.

    The 54% of violent crimes, isn't the % of violent crimes committed. It's who the cops end up arresting and the DA gets to convict. It omits who the cops do not arrest and do not convict, because they favor 1 ethnicity over an other. It's something that systematically happens. And so that % means nothing.
     
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    You can deflect to drugs and traffic stops all you want but that wasn't my claim.
    And if you're looking for someone to blame on drugs and traffic stops you should be more attentive where it originated.
    It was Biden who drafted the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, signed by Bill Clinton, that created mass incarceration of blacks over crack and 3 strikes targeting blacks as super predator's coupled with giving life sentences for drugs. It also enticed states to build or expand correctional facilities through the Violent Offender Incarceration and Truth-in-Sentencing Incentive Grants Program. The bill earmarked $8.7 billion over six years for states to build more prisons.

    Who were using crack 10-1 over every other race? Blacks.

    A 2012 Pew Center study of 36 states found that the average length of stay for offenders released from prison in 2009 had increased 36% from 1990, with nine states reporting increases of over 50%.

    I bet you won't watch Biden explaining how his crime bill works.



    I am talking about the current rate of violent crime by one race that is 3 to 1 per capita by one race.
    You can ignore the black on black crime (Which is higher than any other race by more than 50%)
    You can ignore the rates of violence in riots by blacks vs every other race
    You can ignore the rates of failure to comply which winds up fighting with police.

    But nobody else is ignoring it.
     
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    Once again, prove that. I know you won't because you never do regardless of who asks you.
     
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    I don't care who signed what to combat drugs. I care who the cops choose to ignore and who they are eager to arrest.

    This is again the result of who cops choose to arrest.
    You're not looking into who is actually doing the drugs.
    Your claim that it's 10 to 1 in every other race, is fake.
    The truth is, is that white people are doing equal to slightly more drugs,
    but white are simply getting away with their crime. This is due to choices made by cops.



    You are not talking about the current rate of violent crime by race.
    You are talking about the choice who cops arrest and who they do not.
     
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    cops aren’t walking past white murderers to arrest black one. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Why are you doing this?
     
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    We know. Its not a topic you could understand with your blinders on.

    And they choose to arrest those who are the most violent first. Did you think they were supposed to ignore the highest crime rate race because they are black?
    Funny how that works, huh

    Yes, Those are the current actual FBI statistics. Learn to do a little research.
     
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    You think that’s a common occurrence and not an extremely freak accident? Just like unarmed black people being shot by police. Excessively rare. But as a Leftist you probably think it happens daily. Be the ostrich:)
     
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    Meanwhile this is the norm. A diversity tenant shoots a man in front of his wife and child and is bailed out the next day. Husband is in the hospital and the shooter is now living in the same townhouse as the wife and child. The wife is terrified and is desperately trying to move. This is what "white supremacy" looks like.

    https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/c...pace/287-695cb63c-6030-448f-ad14-6e23f3113612

    https://www.waxahachietx.com/story/...-recovering-suspect-released-jail/7406539001/
     
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    Yet they still peddle the lies like anyone here can take it seriously.
     
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    PUNCH BACK TWICE AS HARD: 5 Indicted APD Officers Sue City, DA Garza, SJW Groups. “The kangaroo court proceedings against 19 APD officers for daring to enforce the law and keep order rather than letting the hard left’s pet Antifa/BlackLivesMatter rioters go on a spree of destruction continues to grind away, but five of the indicted officers are fighting back.”

    Stay on it,

    "I hope not only that the lawsuit is successful, but that discovery for it also reveals all sorts of criminal collusion between Travis County DA Jose Garza, the Austin Justice Coalition and various George Soros front groups to deprive American citizens equal protection under the rule of law in the name of radical social justice."
     
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    For sure she didn’t get that position based on qualifications.
     
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    what police were ever defunded?
     
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    Does that mean the right will now support the movement?
     
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    Several. Google it. Tired of people asking simple questions that are already widely known. If you can't educate yourself that's on you. You're a grown man/woman. Be responsible for yourself and stop asking people to be your teacher. No one here gets paid to do so.
     
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    lol, if you don't know, don't need to respond or just say you don't know
     
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    Why would they? Oh right, you asked the question because its costing black people's lives and in your eyes those on the right are racist and want black people dead so they would want to join such an organization. Completely ignoring the fact that those on the right warned that this would happen.

    :rolleyes: typical extreme partisan response. I'd say you should be ashamed for it but we all know you're proud of such a thought. Prolly thought you were being witty even. But such comments are pathetically pedantic and holds no imagination what so ever.
     
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    Again, you're a grown man/woman. Google it. Is that to hard for you? Too bad. Do it anyways.
     
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    lol, if you want to google it, google it yourself, show us what a grown man\women you are
     
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    I'm not the one that asked the stupid question. You did. Therefore, it's your job to educate yourself. I know, really hard for ya...but I have faith in you! You can do it!
     
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    Yep, it could be a big ole huge coincidence that defunding police and crime/murder spiked.

    So best for you partisan lefties to just ignore the correlation and pretend like nothing's wrong.

    BTW.....funny how you act like this article doesn't 'prove' that defunding police lead to a spike in crime, but you'll state that 'police aren't doing their jobs' as if that's a fact when we all know you won't even attempt to back it up.
     
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