Maybe it's just me, but I think this is an interesting question.

Why? What for?

 

So you can impeach the president for realz instead of just paying lip service to the TDS crowd.

 

Right. That's what I said. I don't know anything that anybody who is paying attention doesn't already know.

Whether you pay attention or not is your choice, but I do believe that those of us who are paying attention enjoy it more.

 

He's already being impeached. Nobody has needed any vote. What difference would it make?

 

You claim this is educating the public. At the same time, the information is kept secret or what is leaked is only what the democrats want to be leaked and they prevent any kind of investigation which could be used as a defense. That is called the Joseph Goebbels education method.

 

To actually impeach the president there has to be a vote. Democrats can't just declare the president impeached. He isn't impeached till they vote on impeachment. If it passes it goes to the Senate for trial. Why you people stalling? Vote on it and let the trial begin.

 

Republicans can call witnesses during an impeachment too, you know. If they want to. And interview them publicly, if they prefer. There is a reason why they don't. I gave you several hints as to why that is. But you gave up.

 

But they cannot subpoena.

 

Oh, it is tipping the scales, just not in the way they thought it would.

 

No! The Impeachment proceeding can be initiated by any member of the House.

 

Absolutely they can subpoena!

Oh... Sorry. You meant Republicans can't subpoena. They don't need to. If they have evidence to acquit, the witnesses are friendly to them.

 

So Nancy Pelosi can just declare trump impeached?

Why doesn't she?

Let the trial begin...

 

In other words, you want to make sure the republicans cannot look at everyone. What are the democrats afraid of?

 

I'm clairvoyant

 

Nope...once the Inquiry is complete it will go to the Judiciary Committee and then for a full House vote.

 

Great. What's the hold up? Why are Democrats stalling? If Democrats believed their own propaganda the floor vote would have happened long ago.

 

And it again gets ignored for the high handed star chamber routine it is as it ought to be. The current set to is little more than a weak attempt by Pelosi to protect red state Dems from retribution from the voters. And sorry democrat angst is not sufficient reason for impeachment

 

That is a serious answer. Graham among others have already said as much. Your inability to deal with that reality is your problem not mine. The house cannot compel the Senate to convict.

 

Congressional committees can issue subpoenas, but that's not without conditions. One of those conditions were explained in wilkinson v. US.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/365/399/

Basically, there has to be a legislative purpose behind the subpoena, since that is the house's job. They are not an investigative arm of the federal government. We don't have any sort of proposed legislation behind these subpoenas, so that's strike 1.

Second, and I believe the pertinent problem for lefties is that the chamber has not given the committee the authority to instigate an impeachment. That authority is not assumed, but rather is granted by the house through a vote.

There is probably some wiggle room somewhere, but certainly no precedent has been established. So basically, a committee needs to be granted the authority to issue subpoenas by the house. Secondly, there needs to be a reason based on legislation. Since there is no proposed legislation Pelosi can point to, their subpoenas are just so much nothingness and can be ignored.

If Pelosi wants to take it to the courts, let's go!!!!

 

The house actually followed the rules and had an actual inquiry.

 

No, they did not. There have been some things going on behind closed doors that mean nothing, but no inquiry has actually taken place on the house floor.

 

I met the Nixon impeachment

 

McConnell has promised to have a trial. We all know what that the trial will be total a charade. The deck will be totally stacked to kill this before the House managers arrive. Not a single House motion will be sustained. Every one of Trumps objections will be sustained. The Senate will do nothing but turn it into Trump's personal bowling ally.

Here's my question. What happens if the House impeaches the President, and sends the articles over for the trial but does not select House managers to prosecute the case or the House managers just never show up. Trump wins either way, but the Senate cannot put on their fake show.. If there is nobody who can prosecute, then the trial won't happen.

I know it seems inconceivable, and maybe its a terrible idea, but …. it just a thought.

 

wut?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/93rd-congress/house-resolution/803

An actual vote to proceed with formal impeachment investigations which gave the authority to issue congressional subpoenas.

 

And he is spot on. The dems are using illegal methods, fabrications and blatant lies to get their own way. Come on, fore heaven's sake, people aren't blind. What makes matters worse, they expect the Republicans and we the people to accept their disgusting dishonesty as normal. How on earth dems expect any Republican to vote for the impeachment if they keep refusing to vote in the house and officially ratify the impeachment inquiry? What they are doing is a political hack job. It only strengthens Trump's base.