Maybe it's just me, but I think this is an interesting question.

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  1. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    You probably get the same kick out of it that I do when Trump supporters talk about honesty and corruption in other politicians and the media. As someone who voted for neither Clinton or Trump, I especially get a kick out of watching you do this after you knowingly voted for a man you knew to be a corrupt liar and then acting flabbergasted when he's investigated for being dishonest and corrupt.
     
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    Wrong you believe it isn't baseless garbage. You know precisely nothing.
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    I knew he was a salesman Hawking the Trump brand. It's what he's always done I still await evidence of personal corruption.
     
  4. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Donor

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    The public is now aware of more credible evidence than you are apparently willing to acknowledge. The members of Congress who were present when the witnesses have been deposed this week and last know even more. There is ample evidence for an affirmative vote for impeachment right now.
     
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    If you have seen the Transcript of the conversation you know there isn't crap.
     
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    And for which he isn't taking a dime. Tell me did Washington and Jefferson quit Selling cotton and tobacco to the Brits while the were President. This is another one of those made up crimes leftists try to invent all the time.
     
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    you have the text of the phone call. What else you is the BS shifty and nadled will allow out of committee via highly selective and quite possibly heavily fictionalized leaks.
     
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  9. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Donor

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    Of course I've read through the transcript. It perfectly explains why the WB was so alarmed........as anyone would be when they are made aware the prez is illegally extorting another country over military aid for personal political gain.
     
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    Sorry that is no where in the Transcript of the phone call.
     
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    And yet, folks in the WH were so freaked out by it they decided to bury the transcript in a code level secure server. Probably because a bit after Don said, "I would like you to do us a favor though....................he made a specific request.

    The President: Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.
     
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    Sorry as I said no Quid pro quo revealed there.
     
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    There is no legal requirement that a formal vote be held before a house committee may open an impeachment inquiry, neither in the constitution, or in federal law, or in the formal rules of the house.

    If the House oversight committee decides to start an inquiry, there is an inquiry. That's all that is required.
     
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    Then you better let Mulvaney know because he said there was.

    QUESTION: But to be clear, what you just described is a quid pro quo. It is, funding will not flow unless the investigation into the Democratic server happened as well.

    MULVANEY: We do — we do that all the time with foreign policy.
     
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    For every fact there is an opposing fact. Reality in politics.
     
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    You're welcome.
     
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    You still think this is about law and justice. Amazing.
     
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    For every fact Trumpette's create an alternate fact........which is a Trumpian euphemism for a lie.
     
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    There's only one set of facts. The rest is just spin.
     
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    Same thing. Each side makes its own facts. Example. The left says Trump asked Zelensky to investigate Biden in order to hurt Biden's bid for the presidency. The right says he asked Zelensky to investigate Biden in order to help an ongoing investigation about the origins of the russia collusion investigation. The only thing either side knows is that he suggested to Zelensky that he investigate Biden. Neither side can prove its position because neither side can read minds.
     
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    For every fact anti-Trumpers create an alternate fact in order to justify what they do. My comment is just as nonsensical as yours.
     
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    Actually the dems call it “parody” now...that’s all they seem to have left
     
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    as I understand it, the behind closed doors thing is the initial stage of investigation... which, as I understand it is common practice for what ever reasons it is so
     
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    I never denied that. I only questioned "it's about showing the American people why impeachment is necessary." You can't do that when the information cannot be shared with the American people.
     
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    Whatever, it looks unfair and partisan to the people.
     
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