Mayor de Blasio Says Wealth Is ‘in the Wrong Hands,’ Pledges to Redistribute It

Lots of jobs out there that don't pay a honest day wage for a honest day work.
I doubt people like to paid ridiculously low if they can find something better, but it seems you think that in capitalistic US of A people like to be underpaid that much that they need foodstamps and like it enough that they wont try to find anything better. How utterly far fetched.

 

Oh heck no. You can acquire skills by working.
And the businesses in the US are the problem from benefiting of the fact that they can underpay their employees because they get foodstamps anyways. And than they get tax breaks them selves in a massive way. They are the problem, and people like you who think the rich must get it financially as easy as possible to accumulate even more wealth through aid by the government.

 

Learn the skills to get paid an honest days wage for an honest days work.

Thats all I have ever done.

I don't like to be underpaid, so I learn the skills, gain the experience, and go to where Im appreciated.

I just started a new gig last week where Im paid 50% over my last position, and its far easier. 5 patients a day vs 30-40 a day, and it got up to 60 a day during last flu season.

Im making more than peers who had been there for 5 years.

I don't want anyone to be underpaid, I want them to earn what they are worth.

People who major in lesbian dance studies are going to have a tough time in the private sector, particularly with student debt.

 

Yes, you can acquire skills by working. But you are at a disadvantage because you are coming in without those skills, and you getting a raise is dependent on what your employer wants.

I don't want anyone to need aid from the govt, im advocating for the exact opposite.

Can I ask how old you are?

 

Negative. Millions of people who work full time still qualify for food stamps in the US. You're simply out of touch of reality.

 

I feel your pain, bro'.

My Dearborn Girls are always good for a Grand a Week in Stripper Tips (A Weekly Dime for My Time).

And, it's all legal. Oh, what a country!

That and being independently wealthy keeps me in Caviar and Pepsi.

But, more power to ya brother.

Oh, and on topic, no worries about de Blasio.

 

That's just an opinion of some schmuck, not a fact.

 

Then they need to acquire more skills.

 

That's just you admitting that you don't get a honest days pay for a honest day work.... because you moved away from that to what you think is "skilled" enough to qualify... and that's a slope with no end in sight. Thank you for playing.

 

Congrats. Im not independently wealthy but I have always worked hard and held at least 2 jobs at a time since I graduated from high school. And that includes when I was putting myself through college.

Never had caviar, don't like pepsi, and don't have time for strippers.

Though I did live with a stripper for a few years when I was in school.

I kicked her out when I discovered she was being convicted of identity theft.

Knock on wood, I was never targeted.

 

Its a fact. Do the things that result in success and you will eventually end up successful.

I have/had friends who were very dumb. I told them not to try growing a brain, but to surround themselves with people smarter than they were, and to do what they did.

For some it worked.

A high school friend and I worked at the same pizza place 20 years ago. He's still working at a pizza place.

 

Are the radical, wanna-be socialists I named elected, and currently in-office, or not, Andy? If they're there, they're THERE. Sad but true.

As for de Blasio... has he ever tried to hide what he believes? Has he ever tried to hide what he wants to do?

 

Again, I will ask how old you are.

 

There you go

No. But I'm probably much older than you, with your rather juvenile idea that you can just pay somebody THAT little for working an entire day that the employee got no idea how to eat and sleep with that. Your idea of getting paid just enough to make a living is when you acquire a college degree,.. and be at the utter bottom of the social ladder. Other people below that don't count.

 

That's just you supporting the idea of a honest days work doesn't pay a honest day wages, and an employer can lean on the fact that the government helps out when you underpay.

 

Like Richard Branson. The fact is that in the US you're likely to have success when your parents have money. Education aint cheap, starting a business cost a lot of money. And I don't care about the exceptions you can come up with. In general... this is how it is for 99% of the US population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States

But long-term income statistics show this isn't happening. Mobility opportunities are different for poor and wealthy children in the US. Parental incomes and parental choices of home locations while raising children appear to be major factors in that difference. According to a 2012 Pew Economic Mobility Project study[19] 43% of children born into the bottom quintile (bottom 20%) remain in that bottom quintile as adults. Similarly, 40% of children raised in the top quintile (top 20%) will remain there as adults. Looking at larger moves, only 4% of those raised in the bottom quintile moved up to the top quintile as adults. Around twice as many (8%) of children born into the top quintile fell to the bottom.

 

OJT is not optimal. As I pointed out it makes you subject to your employer.

Im under 40, but things have changed in my lifetime. It used to be that you stayed with a company for years, and the understanding was they would take care of you. Wages, benefits, retirement.

Those days are long gone, the company is out for itself, and you should be too. Study after study shows the quickest way to improve your career is to find (and go) to employers who will pay you what you are worth.

Im not saying people at the bottom of the social ladder don't count, im saying learning the skills that employers will pay you for is the best way up.

 

I've posted this about three hundred times in this Forum over the past ten years -- and it is as true now as the first time I posted it, although I certainly didn't invent the concept:

YOU EARN WHAT YOU ARE WORTH ON THE LABOR MARKET! You might be a brain-surgeon and make several million dollars a year. You may be a burger-flipper, and make minimum wage. Once again -- and I hope it sinks in this time: YOU EARN WHAT YOU ARE WORTH ON THE LABOR MARKET! This has been essentially true since the beginning of civilization!

If you are worth a lot to an employer, you can demand a lot. If you are not worth much of anything, you will still be paid accordingly, and if you aren't happy about it, in the United States you are always free to go find a different job working for someone else!

 

Im not denying that, but how many of those people with low incomes and poor home locations also had 5 kids out of wedlock with no father in the home? Nearly half of boys are raised in a home with no father, or even male rolemodel.

Conversely, how many of those in the the middle or top quintiles come from families that stayed together, made good decisions, and passed this on to their children?

Take a look at the top income brackets-its highly transitory as well, many being middle class but having sold a home or made out well on the stock market.

The fundamentals don't change. Make good choices and things will be better.

 

Working minimum wage jobs when they are in their 30s. There is no excuse for that. If you are still making minimum wage beyond your teen years then you are a loser.

 

This is of course true, but many have been conditioned to believe that there is some sort of treachery or underhandedness involved.

Thomas Sowell has written about this. He would see black children who never considered being an astronaut or banker, or police officer because they assumed the odds were stacked against them.

 

It's a think tank white paper from a left-leaning think tank.

Never in human history has it been as easy for common people to achieve middle class prosperity as it is in the U.S. currently.

Under the type of government you want they -might- achieve middle class prosperity provided they don't get pogromed, disappeared, up against the walled, genocided, famined, gulaged, jihaded or enslaved along the way.

 

Good. The rich need to pay more

 

Yeah they are the worst

 

How much is “rich” and how much more?

You sound a lot like Stalin