McAllen, Texas, immigration processing center is largest in U.S

just saying it as it is. That is always best.

 

It's quite simple really. Here is your post: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-largest-in-u-s.535306/page-3#post-1069227049

Check out the last line of the post that you quoted. That's the question that you didn't answer. So where was your empathy in 2014?

 

What on earth? Citizenship and fostering funding for life? Why the hell can't the parent look after the kid? Are they now dead as a result of Trump or something?

 

OK, I have found it at last. I am not an American and knew nothing about it in 2014. I was not though an Obama supporter either which I think is what American's usually do - fight back and forth, Democratic and Republican about the issues. However this did come up in an article I gave quotes from so given I know nothing about it, I shall put in what the expert there said

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/06/16/border-angels-fight-trumps-borderland-brutality/

so according to this guy whatever Obama did do this is twenty times worse.


As far as Obama is concerned people I listen to have said that he had put in motion a whole load of things which can be easily used to bring fascism to the US. I know people were trying to get him to end them before he left.

2014 my attention was on Independence for Scotland.

 

Well what is it? Kidnapping of children? I know now that this has happened to plenty of children. Parents have been sent home or disappeared or whatever and the children are still in a cage...so that was my response.

Now I am going to ask you a question. You were going crazy about the parents rights not being listened to when they wanted to keep alive a child who had no chance of recovery and who the keeping alive of may well have been causing the child pain. You believed the parents rights came above even the right of the child to be allowed a natural death. Why are you not concerned about children against all law being removed from their parents and put in cages like animals, not knowing what is happening, not knowing where their parents are and with no one to give them proper care and to comfort them.

 

I'll put it in here as well. Trump has backed down and is ending family separation

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/trump-backs-down-ends-family-separation-policy/

 

Chris 155au Your concern over what Obama did in 2014 appearing to believe it was the same as Trump

No, Donald Trump’s separation of immigrant families was not Barack Obama’s policy

cont'd
http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...ald-trumps-separation-immigrant-families-was/
You could have searched as easily as me you know.

Anyway it is over now. Trump is stopping separating families.

 

Not until the fat lady sings.

 

Very true

It’s all about the Midterms: Trump took those Children Hostage to Stoke his Base

 

Seems to me a person with real compassion would take some in to their home. You aren't doing any more than the biggest hater in this country. You lose a lot of credibility when you are nothing but talk. But again you sit back in your white bread world and criticize others for doing the same as you. It appears to me that there are plenty of legal residents in the Big Apple who could use that money that is tossed at the illegals. I'd bet some of those ghetto kids would like some new clothes and shoes and a nice safe area where they could play ball with some buds.

 

I did say that it was "the same as Trump." I just asked where was your sympathy. The scale of it shouldn't make a difference because ONE child in a cage should be enough to invoke empathy, it just means that with Trump, people's empathy is extended to many more children.

Now you say that you weren't aware of the 2014 case of children in cages so that's fair enough. However, if you did know at the time, I do wonder if you would've criticised Obama as much as you've criticised Trump, even though you weren't an Obama supporter and I'm sure that its the case that you are FAR LESS of a supporter of Trump, to the point of biter hatred!

When you read the above in that interview, did you understand how splitting families enabled the government to deny people's right to apply for asylum? I don't see how the two are connected.

Sorry, kidnapping? By the government?

When did I say that I wasn't "concerned" exactly?

 

Gee according to the libs, temporarily separating children from their parents causes irreparable damage. They will grow up being retarded and be criminals. Wow, that is hard to swallow. Enough has been said about kids separated from parents who are in jail, but what about military people who are separated from their children for months at a time. How about truck drivers. How about guys like me who at times spent 2 or 3 weeks on the road for work. Are all our kids damaged beyond repair? Should we pass laws that people in these occupations can't have children? Or should we force the employers to make allowances for taking out kids with us?

As I read up on these treks from Central America, I see rape is very common, robbery and violence is the norm. I have to wonder what is more traumatic for the child, watching his mama and sister get raped or his father get the crap beat out of him for the money in his pocket while sleeping in a ditch with little food or water or hanging out in a safe air-conditioned building with new clothes, plenty of food, and sports equipment to play with? These atrocities are all due to coming here illegally. There is a legal and safe way available. Why should we reward and encourage parents who would put their children through this type of "irreparable trauma".

 

Now I am going to ask you a question. You were going crazy about the parents rights not being listened to when they wanted to keep alive a child who had no chance of recovery and who the keeping alive of may well have been causing the child pain. You believed the parents rights came above even the right of the child to be allowed a natural death. Why are you not concerned about children against all law being removed from their parents and put in cages like animals, not knowing what is happening, not knowing where their parents are and with no one to give them proper care and to comfort them.[/QUOTE]

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-largest-in-u-s.535306/page-6#post-1069237856

 

Where do you suggest children go instead? In with their parents into the adult jail? Are you sure about that?

 

Trump Towers look fit enough for purpose.

 

What is your point about Sanchez?

 

Separating the children from the parents is plain wrong and unnecessary.

Day 1, get arrested for crossing into the US illegally.
Day 2, bought before a judge to answer for the crime.
Day 3, deported together as a family.

The Constitution gives them a right for a fair and speedy trial, so let's give them their rights and make it as speedy as possible.

 

What is your point about Sanchez?

 

I just love how you're totally incapable of giving your opinion on where you suggest children go instead!

 

Who are you kidding ? Republicans own racism now. Just look at all the white supremacists who endorsed Donnie and who served in his cabinet.

 

Delusional.