Medical Boards to sanction physicians who spread Covid misinformation

Well then go complain to the Left because I'm not a leftist.

 

Answer me this: Will doctors be allowed to denigrate the vaccine in any way, without having to worry about the threat of decertification?

Are we actually trying to stop any criticism against the vaccine?
If so, this seems to go far beyond just claims of "disinformation".

 

If I "actually" want to talk about studies? LOL, depends. With you? Not really. You're not qualified. I'm a medical scientist, MD/PhD, with 41 years of experience. I've linked to, and detailed multiple studies in my posting history (probably in the hundreds by now, counting all my threads about state of the vaccines, the variants, virology/immunology, etc. I've debunked the garbage that you call studies a number of times.

I explained the hierarchy of evidence. What you call "studies" often come from anti-vaxxer sites and from quacks. What I post, is instead, randomized controlled trials with appropriate methodology, reviews of these, and meta-analyses.

Are you being paid to diffuse the anti-vaxxer crap that you call "studies"?

 

Are you talking to me?
Definitely I'm not trying to stop any criticism against the vaccine. In my thread State of the Vaccines I mentioned NUMEROUS times adverse reactions, including fatal ones, such as transverse myelitis, Guillain-Barre Syndrome, thrombotic thrombocytopenic syndromes, anaphylaxis, myocarditis, and so on. I mentioned complex concepts such as original antigenic sin, and antibody-dependent enhancement. I have nothing to hide regarding the risks and downsides of the vaccines.

This said, I put them in the correct perspective of their rarity as compared to the the likelihood of death and organ damage from the virus itself. I talk about the balance between risks and benefits.

You on the other hand only spout lies and misinformation. For example, you recently posted the ABSURD idea (complete with a misguided article which I debunked) that vaccinated people fare worse than unvaccinated ones.

So, between my acknowledging the risks and downsides, and your blatant lies, there is a HUGE difference.

 

Okay. That sounds fair.

 

Health Care in United States is kind of unique because it runs by the private government.
Yes, the people's government delegate medical cartel a governmental role, so they can extract more money from people.
But Medical Board de facto is a Government.
If you are doctor you have no say in this discussion, because you have financial interest.

 

Medical Boards have been slow to act. Certain physician statements are frankly psychotic, like the doctor who said the 5G network is the cause of the Covid-19 pandemic. Another doctor said vaccinated people will be dead in 4 years. Another one infamously said the vaccine makes people magnetic. To date, only two doctors have faced sanctions. It should happen more often. Interesting read:

https://www.mdedge.com/rheumatology...DedgeeNL092521A&ecd=wnl_wee_210925_mdedge_9am

 

Assuming that government artificially keeps limit on the number of doctors, there will be less doctors will be able to provide help.
All kind of stories and theories are coming from one source it is a U.S. Government and government like institutions.
Since government consistently lie to the people, people have no choice be to believe to those who oppose the government.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ivermectin-crazy-physician-assistant-license-181518332.html

A PA's license was suspended in Washington State.

Yes, I'd call what he was doing, unprofessional conduct...

 

As CenterField demonstrates, liberty dies to thunderous applause, and censorship arrives to thunderous applause.

 

Sounds like the beginning of the formation of another bottle neck.

 

Yep! If you want to practice homeopathy become a homeopath otherwise stick to evidence based medicine. If you cannot understand evidence based medicine you should NOT be practicing

 

Nope! They are upholding standards. You want to challenge them - no problems they will welcome it but you better make sure you are on a solid scientific footing.

There IS precedent for this BTW

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield

 

I am highly suspicious that they will be upholding a double standard.

The line between "upholding truth" and censorship is a very thin one.

 

Scientific footing is a new name for political and financial incentives.
Vaccine is not effective against the spread or Delta variant (according to CDC), so whoever is pushing vaccination is at very minimal is a dishonest person

 

No it is not and if you understood how medical science works you would see why

eg. Please validate your statement on the Delta virus using peer reviewed research

 

No it is not

Look at what it took to de register Wakefield. The research had to be replicated and the research re-examined multiple inquiries before they took the final step. Even then if and I repeat IF at any point he would have admitted fault he would not have been disciplined so harshly.

But the bottom line remained - HE FALSIFIED RESEARCH

Nobody takes action against someone who is doing new research and finding new things - look at the current issue with the AZ and J&J vaccine. IF “they” were truly trying to suppress research on adverse effects would “they” have allowed ITTS to come to light?

 

That's not true. I've heard all sorts of stories about researchers who were afraid of losing tenure, losing future grant money, maybe even losing out on a future career promotion, all because they were afraid higher-ups would not like the topic of their research, or what their research might find.

 

That is what CDC is saying.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccine-effectiveness
about 50% according to National Health Care Safety network.

 

You just got an F for referencing

 

Yep, that is very common strategy of all totalitarians.
Just deny obvious truth, ignore facts,.and push totalitarian agenda.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...-may-be-only-50-effective-is-that-good-enough

It has been known fact for more then a year, that vaccines are useless against common cold virus.

 

No you got an F due to poor referencing

just posting to a website and saying “it’s there somewhere” is an absolute fail

And now you have posted to a non-scientific source. I will admit that NPR usually has good journalism but that is still NOT a research paper AND AND it is from SEPTEMBER LAST YEAR!!!!!! :

Now I also love how there is a bit of a sleight of hand there where you have posted the effectiveness against infection rather than the effectiveness against hospitalisation which is still 80%

 

So you do not see the graph from CDC.
That is what I thought.
Who needs any kind of science if political science trumps everything.

 

Oh! I saw it - which is why I saw the attempt to be disingenuous

Your graph was about infection not ability to contain viral spread. Yes people who have been vaccinated can be infected but, and here is the science part, what is their viral load? How long to they have an elevated viral load? In other words what is the propensity to spread the virus further? Now I asked for peer reviewed research and although the CDC is excellent and bases its findings on peer reviewed research it is not in and of itself peer reviewed research, now the reason I asked for this specifically was to show you that the science behind this is NOT politically driven
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/effectiveness-research/vaccine-effectiveness-hcp.html

 

Propensity is 50% or more because vaccinated are unaware about their ability to spread virus.

The minimum infectious dose of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, is unknown so far, but researchers suspect it is low
https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/14/how-much-of-the-coronavirus-does-it-take-to-make-you-sick/

So load does not matter either ten or millions the virus are in the air.

Researchers estimate that people who get infected with the coronavirus can spread it to others 2 to 3 days before symptoms start and are most contagious 1 to 2 days before they feel sick.
https://www.webmd.com/lung/coronavirus-incubation-period#1

So IT DOES NOT MATTER how sick they are, they spread it everywhere.

Indiscriminative vaccination is just a plain and simple attempt to establish totalitarian rule.