Medicare for all and choice

Discussion in 'Health Care' started by wgabrie, Oct 31, 2019.

  1. Shook

    Shook Well-Known Member

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    Wrong. We had had heavily fettered "free enterprise" in US healthcare long before Obama came tripping along.
     
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    What I never understood is the people who oppose universal health care systems by saying they don't want the government to get between them and their doctor.... But they are ok with a for-profit insurance company doing so?
     
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    Insurance is a method of payment. They are not the final decision maker on course of treatment.

    If your doctor deems something necessary, and the insurance declines to pay for it (and multiple appeals applied), that doesn't mean you can't have it, it means you will have to pay for it out of pocket.

    If the government says you can't have it, then if what has happen in the UK is any example, then you can't have it.
     
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    I'm always amazed that this question comes up every time this topic is mentioned in the USA. But it doesn't come up when passing higher and higher military budgets or bailing out wall street etc.
     
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    Can't you? Just go somewhere else.
     
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    If the health 'insurance' is centralized to the government, and the government says you can't have it, where else is there to go?

    Are you even acquainted with the Charlie Gard case in the UK?
     
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    If you talk to most people, they don't support either one of those actions, so you actually have a dead possum on your hands.
     
  8. FatBack

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    If you are paying attention, you hear many question it.
     
  9. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Amazed as you may be, do you realize a strong military is essential to maintaining freedom?

    As for Wall Street, a strong economy is also very important to maintaining a strong country.

    It's not tough to understand if you put your mind into it.
     
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    Yes. But how strong? Do you really need to dwarf every other military on the planet combined and then some?
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes.
     
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