Medicare-for-all' means long waits for poor care, and Americans won't go for it once they learn thes

same happened to bars, non-smoking bars just never became popular, people want to go where they are welcome... so if your smoking friends wont go to a non-smoking bar, you either party by yourself or go where they go... simple

a mall or bar that caters to only half the people is going to fail unless you pass laws to handicap the other businesses, which is what anti-smokers finally resorted too

 

Non smoking areas for bars are popular here. Now, bars provide another area. It’s the same in cruise ships. There is a smokers gambling area and a non smokers area. But it’s the Only place in the entire boat you can smoke other then outside on deck in restricted areas.
As far as malls and stores, it had little to no affect at all. Outside areas are where the smokers light up before and after they enter.

 

Republicans want short lines at the doctor's office and extra long lines at the funeral homes. That's why they want more Republican death panels and less health care coverage.

 

Exactly.

Why do we CONSTANTLY get this argument from Republicans that it's somehow better to have NO coverage than SLOW coverage?

"I'm sorry Mr, Anon, you can't afford to pay 4x your lifetime earnings for this operation so your child/wife/you will die in a year. You'll be glad to know, however, that if they could have paid we could have scheduled them next week. Isn't it wonderful that while your family dies rich people won't have to wait? Make sure you thank President Trump and the Compassionate Conservatives of the Republican Party at the polls next time"

 

but with added coverage the COST of dead Americans will be reduced - and that's what every real patriotic American wants

 

All patriotic Americans feel that way. Too bad we can't get right wingers to agree.

 

If going to a doctor means you are healthy, and eating means you are healthy, by all means do both.

 

You mean to tell me I have been paying for dead people too?

 

When Americans needlessly die, that is a cost to society that cannot be recovered. Of course, the pro death Republicans rejoice at that but we patriots don't.

 

So what is it actually costing "society"? I mean its cheaper to bury someone then to pay a bunch of medical bills for them.

 

Republicans typically place no value on human lives. This despite calling themselves "pro life". Small wonder why they promote war, corporate welfarism, and laugh at poverty and death among the lower economic classes.

 

I know, I hate that about Republicans. I am pro choice and I hate war.

 

Well keep that in mind the next time a Republican goes to the doctors for a prostate exam. Let’s save money on everyone.

 

For sure....but To be accurate, they place no value on someone else's Life.
They rail against socialism but most luv thier Medicare, call 911 when they need it and complain about about the roads to the govt. and not the business pes that use them too.

 

Not only that, but businesses supported antismoking laws so all were on an equal footing.

 

you mean anti-smoking people forced business to be anti-smoking, cause by equal footing you mean the non-smoking bars would fail as no one woudl go to them unless all bars had to go non-smoking also

not one bar around here WANTED to go non-smoking, they were forced too

I am all for business that want to be non-smoking to do so, but I am also for those that want to allow smoking to do so also

 

I worked in business during the time of change. It was no different then the govt mandating safety devices in cars in the federal level. . Businesses wanted state intervention. The last thing any business wants is to have restaurants for example, competing on something else other then food and service. The proof is simple. Auto corps. have not engaged in suits to have safety devices' removed and businesses have not rebelled to have smokers allowed in mainstream establishments. What you and I want now is immaterial. With the reduction in smokers, the vast majority have swung with public pressure which is far more effectively then state govt. regulations. . Mandates.

There were a lot of pissed off smokers screaming at businesses that were then blunted by state government. . Intervention.