Mehdi Hasan nails it on MLK and CRT.

Of course it is relevant to any discussion of slavery in the past and even now. To try and frame slavery as something unique and even worse in the United States is folly.

 

No you have not but your dodges noted. Try not to make it about me and talk about our society, if all this privilege was suddenly eliminate how exactly would that manifest itself. What would make you suddenly realize WE ARE THERE!!!

How much longer do we have to have black privilege to make it all even?

 

What history? Where is that history? Britian did abolish it until after 1800!!! Correct me if I'm wrong but we didn't win the Revolution until 1783. But maybe YOUR history shows a different date. Even then they did abolish completely till the 1830's.

 

Yeah, I suppose to you they would be meaningless because you didn't understand them the first time you posted them and apparently you still don't.
Let me help you out though I doubt you will understand. Whites are 61% of the population and 59% of deaths of known race are white.. Blacks make up 12% of the population and 14% of deaths of known race are black. See? The percentage of deaths is higher than population percentage while it's the opposite for whites therefore blacks are adversly effected by the virus. When talking about race, to say things are not based on the color of skin is ludicrious.

 

I can, I have and obviously you didn't understand or are comprehensionly challenged.

 

12% of cases equal to their percent of the population, 14% of the deaths 2% higher than their percent of the population not worth some great claim about COVID being a racial thing, not 14% of blacks are dying from COVID.

Repeat that comment and the mods will delete it with a warning.

Now try again since you have not addressed what I ask with your strange story about friends in Paris and some attack on me.

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Try again that does NOT address what I asked it just nonsense and an attack on me.

I bet you can't even define what is equality nor explain how if we had this equality how it would manifest itself, what would be different?

 

(FFS...sigh) It's not easier to get into college if you're black. There are many that don't want "those people" in their college and will find any excuse to NOT let them in. Really, who are you kidding with that. There have been 120 SC Justices of which a grand total of 2 have been black. Guess it can't be any easier than that. A black VP running mate is based on politics. College, clubs, and school outings (not sure about outings) are done becuse all of those were strickly white for decades......it's called fairness. ALL of those "privileges" have and are WHITE still to this day. Please spare me you're false outrage of oppression.

 

Actuall, CRT is NOT about slavery so go ahead and laugh but no one is laughing with you. There is no black privilege and you can repeat that as many times as you like.....doesn't make it true.
Democrats.....sure, all the things you said are true and Lincoln was a Republican but here's the thing. Given TODAY'S political scheme, he would be a Democrat and the Republcans of today are much more alighed with the Democrats that you're speaking of. That is a political fact. Like I said, sure, they were Democrats but the policies that they were for are the Republican policies of today.
You're also wrong about the SCOTUS cases. I belive on of them deals with Asians.

 

That's right from YOUR charts....I don't know what to tell you if you can't "get it".

I can and have and you didn't understand it. Why? Who knows, probably why you don't understand your own chart.

I did. It was right there in my post but you took it as an "attack" on you.

 

Sorry, now you're just boring.

 

White flag noted......

 

Nope and yes you did.

 

You have just shown you know nothing about CRT and upon what it is based. AA embodies ans codified black privilege on it's face. And no reason to believe Lincoln would be a Democrat these days even though it has nothing to do with anything ans does not erase the past.

 

Yeah, you would take it that way but here's the thing. You can't debate someone (you) that doesn't understand the "facts" they have given, won't admit that they are wrong, doubles down on his misinformation with more and then thinks they won the debate. You should run for President.

 

Here's the thing you raised your white flag when you had to try and make it about me.

 

When you do the things I just pointed out, you make about yourself.

 

But as Florida lawmakers consider legislation to police what students are taught, Miami Beach Senior High School teacher Russell Rywell wonders if he will still be able to discuss how some of his students’ ancestors arrived in the United States. “How do you teach slavery? The slave trade? The Holocaust?” asked Rywell, a speech and debate teacher who has taught in Miami-Dade County’s public schools for 11 years. “How do you teach these issues without talking about the participants and the roles they played?”

As part of the “stop-woke” agenda of Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), Florida lawmakers are now considering bills that would allow almost anyone to object to any instruction in public school classrooms. DeSantis wants to give people the right to sue schools and teachers over what they teach based on student “discomfort.” The proposed legislation is far-reaching and could affect even corporate human resources diversity training.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/02/07/desantis-anti-woke-act/

So if Biff or Debbie object to hearing about black lynchings, teaching it is cancelled. Hey, that's one way to get around desegregated schools.

 

Fast forward to the part of the show when he talks about the fraud right wing media has ginned up over CRT. It's brilliant.......and funny. Pay particular attention to the quotes from MLK.

 

How does critical race theory and it's being taught in schools benefit the nation, in your opinion since you are defending it here? I'd remind you that the issue also played a major role in the ouster of how many leftwing extremists in San Fransisco. Laws are being drafted nationwide. I get you might not be aware of these things given your iv drip from MSNBC, but the rest of the nation is aware.

 

Actually, it didn't, but that's another discussion. Take some time and watch Oliver address the subject. It's informative and entertaining.

 

John Oliver simply isn't credible. More, he lies, creates lots of strawmen arguments. The folks he cites ALL want CRT taught in schools. Why, again, do you want a creepy marxist process taught to our kids again?

 

Your misinformed reply is in keeping with the misinformed comments of the parents in the video. What the people he cites want is teachers to be allowed to expose their students to US history with all its glory and its warts.
On the other side there are folks who are banning books in an attempt to sanitize US history.

 

Op-Ed: King was a critical race theorist before there was a name for it
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-01-17/critical-race-theory-martin-luther-king

For more than 30 years, scholars have employed critical race theory as an analytical tool. The right has rebranded it as the new racism, as wokeness run amok, as a threat to innocent schoolchildren and as a stalking-horse for the demise of “Western civilization” itself. The theory has become the target of coordinated efforts to stigmatize and erase generations of antiracist knowledge, advocacy and history. The objective is both to disappear antiracism’s history and to deny its contemporary salience.

King himself is a prime casualty in this effort. Apostles of the McCarthyite crackdown on critical race theory have exploited him as a mouthpiece for their cause, reducing him to a solitary, decontextualized line from the “I Have a Dream” speech about a future in which his four children were to be judged not “by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.”

Some use King’s words to erase his deeds and those of millions more who rose up to “make good the promises” since Reconstruction. In Tennessee, for example, the Moms for Liberty sought to ban Frances E. Ruffin’s children’s book “Martin Luther King Jr. and the March on Washington” by framing its descriptions of segregation and the violence meted out against King and others as traumatizing and racist. The Moms argue that Ruffin’s portrayal of white racism against people of color “will sow the seeds of racial strife, neo-racism, neo-segregation, and is an affront” to King’s ideals. This reveals precisely what comes of a persistent and willful ignorance of King’s legacy.

 

Then you aren't understanding the response. I know superficial is your jam, but really... If you don't understand that CRT is being introduced in the public schools by now, even jumping on the English comedian isn't going to help you at this point. Oliver is wrong, he spreads misinformation to make a critique of those who rightfully criticize him, and in the offing, you believe or have faith that his commentary is somehow credible. it isn't. Why do you suddenly want us all to believe and teach radical communism to our Kids?

I'll put some fine points on it. Schools teach that slaver was the evil institution that it was. Always have. Show me ONE school curriculum that doesn't, or didn't. Dare you to try. More, with all this drama about the evils of slavery, why do you ignore the fact (as I and others have pointed out repeatedly on these boards) that modern slavery does exist around the world, and generally in places that you support it. You support it in China. You support it around the middle east. You support it in Africa. And you support it with your approval of illegal immigration into this nation.

Where is your commentary about what happens today? And why do you insistently ignore that?

Your agenda is indoctrination. Alway has been. And all the while, you tolerate and support the actual evil of slavery around us. Talk about a coincidence....

 

Teachers nationwide said K-12 schools are not requiring or pushing them to teach critical race theory, and most said they were opposed to adding the academic approach to their course instruction, according to a survey obtained by NBC News.

Despite a roiling culture war that has blown up at school board meetings and led to new legislation in statehouses across the country, the responses from more than 1,100 teachers across the country to a survey conducted by the Association of American Educators, a nonpartisan professional group for educators, appeared to suggest that the panicked dialogue on critical race theory made by lawmakers and the media does not reflect the reality of American classrooms.

“We’re saying, ‘What is the fuss about?’” said Lynn Daniel, a ninth-grade English teacher in the Phoenix area. “We don’t get it. This objection is being pushed upon us, and it’s not even happening in our classes. I don’t understand it.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...-t-happening-classrooms-teachers-say-n1272945

Do you actually think the argument is about whether teachers are telling students slavery was OK? Cuz, you know, it isn't. Please don't deflect to a discussion about slavery in China. This discussion isn't about the immorality of slavery as much as it is about how racial animus since slavery, and after it was abolished, has undeniably impacted black Americans.

The sheer power on display to turn King against himself — a process that has been underway since the first day this holiday was celebrated — is a grim reflection of the way opponents have long subjected antiracist thinking and activism to distortion, misappropriation and redefinition. The brazen casting of critical race theory as the contemporary villain following 2020’s racial reckoning is no surprise.