Melbourne attack: One person dead after man sets car on fire and stabs pedestrians

What really makes me scared is the number of posters here that are helping the terrorists

 

Dolphin isn’t a fish. Perhaps get more information.

 

Exactly, just because something looks like something doesn't mean it is.

 

LRL, you are right that it is radicalisation that is the issue.

My issue is the statement “lone”. That is crap. I don’t buy this “lone” rubbish. Yes he was probably having mental issues, to be radicalised to enact these atrocities you imagine most are having mental issues.

However they may of perpetrated the act as an individual, but it is hard to believe that this sort of terrorism is truly an individual act and others aren’t complicit in the whole crime. The modus is exactly the same, each and every time. The theme universal to thousands of “lone” acts.

 

I quite believe that this and some previous were Lone Wolf attacks but spured on by external events and things they read on the internet including these sorts of pages.

It is a lot more complicated than we usually make it out to be. There is a range of different people with social, political, psychological issues that look for anything to hang their hat on Radical Islam whether they are radicalised, trying to rationalize there problem or just being fashionable.

ISIS of course lay claim to anything that will further their cause and are really grateful for all the commentators that help them achieve a greater level of fear and an ever increasing chasm in our society.

 

No, they were 'spurred on' by the Religion of Peace. You are very much mistaken if you think it's external, and your mistake is almost certainly a result of zero real knowledge of what is said and thought behind closed doors.

There is no "lone wolf" in a faith system which rewards the martyr. And what's the bet that if a white Fundamental Christian decided to martyr himself in order to bring on the second coming, the Lefties would leap to a universal condemnation of Christianity?

 

It is crap, you're right. Absolute crap.

 

The terrorists love you my friend, you do there bidding.

 

On the contrary, I actually have access to the machine. I KNOW it's not external, and I also know they depend upon white progressives to continue to believe it's 'something else'. As long as you keep pretending it's a bad hair day, or mean tweets, they can carry on building the machine unchallenged.

 

Sorry I didn't realize I was talking to an expert. I do appreciate your slant on it, I have read it hundreds of times. So give us your much more experienced solution, for our edification.

 

Ban the damned religion and never import any practitioners. Just two practical approaches. There are probably many more.

I'm not an 'expert', I have a backstage pass.

 

And the half million that live here, most of whom have been here for decades?

 

This girl I knew once got a back stage pass to a concert, I think we know what happened to her .

 

So guilty of crimes they may or may not commit.

 

If I were King, I'd deport any not yet a citizen. Immediately.

 

Who cares. If it's that important to live in Australia (or wherever), they know what to do.

Japan has had a blanket ban on the Religion of Peace for years, and no one minds.

 

Japan does a lot of things different, totally different culture.

 

And those that are citizens?

 

I am not sure this is the answer, but it is clear that the Islamic religion struggles with a western society founded upon Judeo Christian beliefs. This would be the same as Christians in a society founded upon Islamic beliefs.

Either group in either situation as a minority, must rely on tolerance to successfully co exist. Where the trouble begins is when the minority grows to be a larger portion of the population, and in particular in more localised enclaves where the minority at large, becomes the majority locally. This is human nature.

So as they become the majority in a more localised environment, they become bolder in their desire to implement their beliefs upon that localised society. This is because they do speak for the majority locally. We see this more predominantly in Europe who have a larger population of Muslims and who have allowed through good intentions or perhaps apathy the formation of block societies who do not wish to conform to the larger society and their rules. Much preferring localised governance more in line with their own belief system. Understandable in theoretic terms, but unworkable in reality.

You see for a peaceful coexistence one group must remain a minority and live in hope that the good grace and tolerance of the majority prevails. This cuts both ways, as it is human nature. The problem here is fundamental differences between the two belief systems.

In my opinion the two cannot exist in an equalised environment, in fact I believe they would struggle to co exist in an 80/20 representation. We have seen this in Lebenon, Egypt, and Pakistan in the past. One group must ascend above the other. There must be a clear dominant in order for a workable society at large.

I have said this before. Multiculturalism can work, but the faith system must be commensual and tolerant. When the faith systems are completely at odds, multiculturalism will fail.

From what I have seen the islamic faith is no friend of Multiculturalism. If you believe it is, you are deluding yourself, and you are the best friend the Islamic Jihadist has in their bid to force conformity through fear.

 

So if you were King of America you would scrap the First Amendment? Keep the second I would assume as you would probably need to.

 

Agree with a lot of what you say except the last paragraph, it is not those that are seeking a more just society who are spreading fear, it is those that are amplifying the terrorists by spreading unreasonable fear. Muslims have lived in Australia for decades in the 100's of thousands without any trouble.

 

Yeah, and? No one is upset about their Muz ban. Why would we be any different?

 

I said NON citizens.

 

I'm not American, and have no idea what a First Amendment is, much less a second.

 

In relatively small numbers, from disparate cultures and nations. There was no 'community', there were simply small language-based enclaves.