Melting ice is slowing down the Atlantic ocean's circulation system.

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. Already, India has built a wall against Bangladesh refugees forced to move by climate change effects on water and agriculture.
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So Why Don't We Float
    Giant, Solar Powered
    Ocean Current Helpers / Creators.

    I don't want to go, Wind, because it
    would weaken Wind Thermal Conveyance.
    We need to circulate the temperature differences.


    Solar Powered floating upside down windmills
    helping move the current along.



    And how about places with melting fresh water such as :flagcanada:
    pipe it to desert regions rather than discard it into the less and less salty seas.
    Green Growth combats global warming. :rant:




    About Time the Lord
    pushed the "flush" handle
    on Bangladesh.
     
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  3. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Usual question -” who pays?”.
     
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    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    Just shows the enormous challenge in moving people and business around Earth...
     
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  5. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Until a few thousand years ago
    people could move with the climate.
    Ref.: The Bible
    Then came nations and borders
    :eekeyes:



    Reading my "Cartoon History of Latino America"
    I read the U.S. / Mexican border was no big deal
    until after WW2.
    Mexicans would cross and live / sojourn a while
    and cross back. It was a way of life.


    Moi :oldman:




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    It's only fair considering how :flagcanada: is diluting the ocean's salinity causing the collapse of the Oceanic Thermal Conveyors.



     
  7. WillReadmore

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    ??
    The US is a FAR larger factor measured either by total or on a per capita basis (where we lead the world in forcing warming).
     
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    Are YOU :flagcanada:? :angered:



    It's about diluting oceanic salinity and the effects on

    The Oceanic Thermal Conveyor currents. Ref.: upload #1
    Get it or not.
     
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    Haha.
     
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    Canada can't change our co2 output.

    Get it or not.
     
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    Too many people on Earth, congested in high population centers, most with great dependence from society and government, most having reasonable shelter and food, and then being asked to leave it all behind and move to unknown and undeveloped areas...good luck ever achieving this in a proactive fashion...only when our asses are on fire will we budge...
     
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    Wow!!!!!

    I really like the way that AboveAlpha explained this a few years ago:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...erm-effects-of-climate-change-logical.454306/


    Is this analysis of the probable long term effects of climate change logical?

     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Frankly I disagree.... I believe that the technology exists.... but is hidden that could reduce the carbon footprint of ten billion humans down to a fraction of what it is at this time..............

    The whole thing will depend on MONEY though.......
    which is one of the reasons why the Malthusians and the neo-Malthusians keep such tight reign on information...... and are so desperate to stop President Trump............

    before he prevents the population of Deplorables.......

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-e-trudeau-save-the-world-environment.558261/
     
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    How could it NOT be so.

    The basis of "Day After Tomorrow" movie Science.
    They wouldn't make a movie about it if it wasn't. Would "they"?

    What is :flagcanada: doing aboot redirecting their fresh water excess

    from diluting the ocean and bringing on "an end of time" as we know it.



    Moi :oldman:




    :flagcanada:, How Nice?
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    One possible way to improve the world ecology is to protect beavers......
    so that we build roads and homes around beaver dams.... so that beaver dams slow down the draining of water from our rivers and lakes into the oceans?????????

    One way to do this would be reality films..... where beavers are stars.... and beaver dams... are either a stage and / or a prop in the film...... depending on how you want to look at it?????
     
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    Most people are incapable of relocating even for employment...good luck convincing people to give up everything they own and migrate to an unknown...
     
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    Once they are starving, they will move. That is, the starving ones will move.

    I think the real problem has to do with where they will go, and how the people who see them coming will react.

    I KNOW how the US reacts to even relatively tiny numbers of people coming here.

    I KNOW how the UK reacts to having people even just in the EU coming there. That's one reason there is a Brexit.

    I KNOW how India reacts to people attempting to come from Bangladesh due to the climate related disaster going on there.
     
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    I'd like to believe when humans are on the precipice they will be more accepting and tolerable, and I suspect this will happen in the darkest and final days, but up to that point I agree the reactions will be anything but supportive...
     
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    Yes, climate change is a tough one, as the ramifications grow along the way rather than just hit us in the face.

    And, our nation isn't particularly capable of accepting or even identfying science.
     
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    Don't know if science can rectify the interesting and ominous phenomena you cited.
     
  22. WillReadmore

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    Well, strictly speaking all science can do is inform us of how things work - like, what is driving climate change.

    Solutions come from government and individual action and get created by engineers.

    One would hope government and individuals are listening to science. Otherwise, we could ignore stuff that is serious or expend money and effort on nonsense.
     
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    I suppose the implication from climate change denial and NIMBY behavior means little to nothing will be publicly mitigated, therefore, there will be some challenging and interesting times ahead...presumably when the stuff hits the fan it will be too late to do anything other than react...such a waste of a great and habitable planet...
     
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    https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...imate-change-not-on-agenda-for-2020-g7-summit

    The president of the most powerful nation on Earth is afraid to learn about climate change potential...worse yet is Republicans in Congress, Cabinet members, and Trump's flock of ill-informed voters, are equally complicit. Good luck future!!
     
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    The Cool Down Is Coming! :oldman: :rant:
    Are YOU prepared?

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    Cool Downs Happen.
    Especially after Warm Ups!




     

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