Members of Congress 'holding secret conversations about removing Donald Trump from office'

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Unless is also as guilty as sin
     
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    That's a real possibility.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My guess is most of these members having secret conversations have a -D following their names.
     
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    Yeah because the Head of the RNC is still backing Trump and called on all of the GOP to do the same. Not to give into the Demos and their Cult followings hysteria. Nor the MSM and Trump tunnelvision they are stuck in.
     
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    I don't think the Dems have really made any real efforts to cloak their intentions. Many Dems have been very vocal in their opposition, and clearly demostrated their frustration, and resentment of Trump, his supporters, and our electoral process. Waters, and Cummings led the inaugural boycott, and began proclaiming Trump was unfit to hold office weeks before Trump was sworn in. I think perhaps the only thing the Dems may be trying to conceal are the identity of the democratic lawmakers attending these clandestine strategy sessions. I think it's safe to assume that many legislators active in this treasonous cabal, also serve on the various House, and Senate committees charged with objective investigative oversight. The NYT and WaPo have obviously deemed that sordid tale un-newsworthy.
     
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    No, that is your slavish following of a want to be despot hysteria level.
     
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    No the D people are upfront about it. Only the R people who want to save their access to the public trough are secretive.
     
  8. Durandal

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    Hillary again? She's irrelevant. Trump is incompetent, and unlike Hillary, he is in a position that makes him dangerous.
     
  9. Merwen

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    I have to disagree. Usually someone with Trump's lack of knowledge and political experience would be unacceptable. However, things have gotten so out of whack that a fresh look is advisable. Additionally, all his various glitches get full publicity, and end up educating the general public on issues they have up to this point become totally oblivious to.

    IMO as a democracy we need a person like Trump right now. We have been slithered into a globalist economic position which has ruined employment prospects for much of our population, and are being led by people that think nothing of destabilizing whole populations--including our own--for their own personal economic gains.

    The "ideals" that the Democrat party touts have been and continue to be used as a smokescreen for what is really going on, and are being used to justify their continual, elite-led opposition, much as was done against Obama throughout much of his Presidency--until he "came over" to their side. Few seem aware that one of Biden's sons found a prime job in the Ukraine as a result of our involvement there, for example:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=bid....69i57j0l3.13145j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


    IMO the best way to tell if Trump is still trying to work to "make America great again" is to watch the opposition. If it continues, he still is.
     
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    Too bad you didn't care when the black turd favored Muslims with our cash !
     
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    It is funny how the hysterical TDS sufferers just can't help themselves.
     
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    Well of course! No TDS sufferers would say different!
     
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    So the left is privately wanting to get rid of Trump? Are you kidding me....privately? Have you been watching the news since January? The leftist msm and the dnc have been laboring feverishly, 24/7, in broad daylight, not in private, but in open rebellion against our democratic process, to get rid of this President by any means that they think they can get away with.
     
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    We need competent leadership and a direction to follow long-term economically. For those areas that have lost so much and are now rusting/decaying, I think they need local solutions, honestly. They need take responsibility for themselves, whether at the local or state level. I don't think it's globalization or any federal policy that's to blame.
     
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    Please refresh our memories with some credible links. i.e. not right wing sources.
     
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    Here's more;

    http://hotair.com/archives/2017/05/19/cnn-white-house-lawyers-investigating-impeachment-procedures/


    CNN: White House lawyers investigating impeachment procedures

    POSTED AT 7:21 PM ON MAY 19, 2017 BY JOHN SEXTON

    Here’s today’s 6 pm scoop based on anonymous sources. CNN reports White House attorneys are investigating how impeachment procedures work to prepare for the “distant possibility” that President Trump could face impeachment:


    White House officials believe the President has the backing of Republican allies in Congress and that impeachment is not in the cards, according to the people briefed on the legal discussions. Even Democrats have tried to calm impeachment talk out of concern it is premature.


    But lawyers in the White House counsel’s office have consulted experts in impeachment during the past week and have begun collecting information on how such proceedings would work, a person briefed on the matter told CNN.

    The story says the White House did not comment and also notes that an outside attorney close to the White House counsel’s office “cast doubt” on the claims. Shortly after the story was published an unnamed White House official told a Fox News reporter the story was false:

    Brooke Singman ✔ @brookefoxnews

    A White House official tells me that @CNN reporting that WH counsel is looking into impeachment procedures is "FALSE"

    4:14 PM - 19 May 2017

    172 172 Retweets 198 198 likes

    So there you have it. CNN’s anonymous sources say it’s true and Fox News’ anonymous sources say it isn’t.


    We’ve had Democratic members of congress talking about impeachment since January and this week one Democrat even called for it on the House floor. Yesterday the NY Times published a roundup of some of the left’s ongoing demands for impeachment:


    Liberals are planning a series of nationwide protests on July 2 known as “Impeachment Marches” to increase the pressure.


    “We expect them to call for impeachment,” said Delia Brown, one of the organizers of the march in Los Angeles. “This is now the zeitgeist, it’s the demands of people we’re responding to.”


    MoveOn.org, one of the most influential liberal organizing groups, sent an email alert Wednesday suggesting that activists tell lawmakers: “If news reports are true, this is obstruction of justice, and Congress must impeach.”

    Simply put, the progressive base wants Trump’s head on a pike. But elected Democrats are sensible enough to know they can’t deliver on that now given that the GOP controls Congress. Here’s the key graph from the Times’ story:


    The fear, Democratic officials say, is that they will invite the sort of backlash from their base that Republicans got for overpromising about what was possible while President Barack Obama was in office. They argue that methodically building a case — obtaining and revealing any memos or White House recordings, for example — is the soundest approach if they are to bring Republicans along.

    That’s why Democrats are avoiding the I-word for now. They don’t want their own angry base to turn on them for failing to deliver. But you can bet that if it were up to them, Democrats would be pushing to impeach Trump now.


    Given these circumstances, the White House probably should be looking into the procedures involved. That wouldn’t show consciousness of guilt, just an awareness that Democrats will leap on this at the first available opportunity.
     
  17. Merwen

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    Then you might need to educate yourself area. There are countless stories about that:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=us+...ome..69i57.18264j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    For years the national branch of the Chamber of Commerce advocated for globalist corporation actions, without our federal government raising a finger to stop them from advocating for foreign interests without registering as alien lobbyists.

    Meanwhile, the people in the towns so invaded continued to faithfully pay their taxes.

    If the government is not going to represent its people rather than foreign interests we need to form a completely new one...and candidates like Trump are really one of the few nonviolent ways to begin this process.
     
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    Companies moving overseas isn't the whole story. That much affects everyone, yet some areas are much worse off than others. There is urban decay in the Eastern US while the Great Plains continue to fare much better, and economies are great as ever on the coasts. We still have industry, and we have plenty of other work available. Trying to reverse globalization won't work and won't automatically revitalize those areas worst affected, because their problems are more internal and start at the bottom, so to speak:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/adammillsap/2017/01/09/the-rust-belt-didnt-adapt-and-it-paid-the-price/

    The Rust Belt Didn't Adapt And It Paid The Price

    ...
    The population and economic decline of the Rust Belt is well known, and researchers have put forth a variety of reasons for it: the invention of air conditioning and people’s preference for milder winters and more sun, cheaper housing in the South and more market-friendly economic policies in other states are the most common.

    Some of these causes, like weather or geography, cannot be altered. Others are under the control of politicians, residents and firms. For example, every state in the Southeast is a right-to-work state, a policy that has been associated with more manufacturing activity, while only four of eight Rust-Belt states—Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan and West Virginia—have adopted similar laws.

    But this doesn’t tell the whole story. The four Rust-Belt states with right-to-work laws didn’t start implementing them until 2012, while most of the Southeastern states have had the laws in place since the 1950s. This means Rust-Belt states have had a relatively unfavorable economic policy in place for at least the last 50 years. At this point, if Ohio, Illinois, Pennsylvania or New York ever adopt a right-to-work law they will merely be keeping pace.

    There is also evidence that the private employers and unions in the Rust Belt states contributed to the area’s economic decline. First, there was a general lack of competition in Rust-Belt industries such as steel, tires and automobiles in the decades following World War II. Each industry was dominated by a few domestic firms like U.S. Steel and General Motors (GM) and faced little foreign competition due to the destruction caused by the war. Since there was enough business to go around, firms felt little pressure to innovate or increase productivity.

    This reality was even recognized by the industries themselves. Alder et al. (2014) reprint a quote from the 1980 annual report of the American Iron and Steel Institute, which represented the large U.S. steel manufacturers:

    Inadequate capital formation in any industry produces meager gains in productivity, upward pressure on prices, sluggish job creation, and faltering economic growth. These effects have been magnified in the steel industry. Inadequate capital formation ... has prevented adequate replacement and modernization of steelmaking facilities, thus hobbling the industry’s productivity and efficiency.

    In addition to the lack of competition for the products themselves, there was also a lack of competition in the region’s labor market.
    ...

    The people of the Rust Belt are disappointed with the American economy—and there are many policies not to like. Our tax code is a mess, economic freedom is declining and occupational licensing and zoning restrictions prevent people from getting better jobs and moving to better places. The first two are largely federal-level problems, but the last two, along with other sensible state-level reforms, are within the purview of Rust-Belt residents themselves. Thus, as with most things, some of the blame lies within.
     
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    Sounds like one of Hillary's campaign commercials. That crsp was old by October
     
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    Can he operate a cell phone all by himself?
     
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    Licensing and zoning restrictions are almost always set to advantage the local members of the elite.

    The article you are quoting is the ethical and moral equivalent of blaming starving people for having to eat their own seed corn. It is a cya article intended to make the financial elite feel less guilty about the way they did and still are ripping off the rest of the economy.
     
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    We don't actually know since he tweets early in the morning.
     
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    More like wishful thinking. The President seems to be hitting a homerun on his foreign trip. Pretty good for someone the left thinks is psychologically impaired
     
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    Airplane loaded with US cash to Iran comes to mind. Palestinians get a butt load too. do your own search it's all over the internet.
     
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    unsourced aricles hold no relevance.
     

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