Members of Congress 'holding secret conversations about removing Donald Trump from office'

Trump IS the swamp personified.

 

That's bullshit. Here are the questions:
http://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000015c-5ade-df5d-abfd-7bde8e000001

They are mostly the same standard questions that get asked under every president. They are not "negative". For instance, how are the following questions "negative"? How would you ask them instead?

• Do you approve or disapprove of the job Donald Trump is doing as President?
• Now, thinking about your vote, what would you say is the top set of issues on your mind when you cast your vote for federal offices such as U.S. Senate or Congress?
• Who do you trust more to handle each of the following issues?
• If the election for U.S. Congress in your district was held today, which one of the following candidates are you most likely to vote for?
• Based on what you’ve seen read, or heard, would you say President Trump’s first official visit to foreign nations has done more to help or hurt America’s relationships with other countries, or has it not made much difference either way?
• How likely is it that President Trump will be able to broker a peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians?
• Do you believe Congress should or should not begin impeachment proceedings to remove President Trump from office?

 

Trump was crowing about the success of his foreign trip, but a couple of days after he left Arabia the Saudis hosted Putin. Trump likes drama and spectacle, but there's more to leadership than that.

 

For a couple of days earlier in the week the Israeli papers were full of the Trump visit saying there was a price for Trump's plan. Then Bibi said that Israel would maintain military control over the West Bank... and that he had changed his mind about a two state solution.

Must be humiliating for Trump.

That struts and frets his hour upon the stage. And then is heard no more: it is a tale. Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.

 

3/4ths of the USA is having conversations about removing Trump from office.

Congress is just following suit.

 

My theory about the left wing cheering, and being really happy, if our President was ever killed by some nut, is starting to show a lot of truth.

 

Remember the last President to be impeached?

 

Yeah, Netanyahu really undercut Trump there. Trump says Israel has to resolve the Palestinian issue -- and Netanyahu tells him to buzz off.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/world/middleeast/trump-israel-visit.html

Foreign Policy magazine had an interesting piece on how a Middle East peace plan could actually work -- though it involves throwing the Palestinians under the bus, and uniting Arabs and Israelis in an anti-Iran alliance.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/25/trumps-plan-for-middle-east-peace-could-actually-work/

That seems like it solves one problem by creating another, possibly bigger issue. But maybe a shared bogeyman is what Arabs and Israelis need. I just wish the Palestinians weren't sold out as part of it.

 

Problem is that Qatar already crapped out of the deal since Trump's visit.

The most promising development is a draft “discussion paper” being circulated by Saudi Arabia and the UAE that describes a range of confidence-building measures between Israel and the Arab countries. These would involve gestures such as telecommunications and commercial and overflight relations with Israel in exchange for Israeli moves toward the Palestinians, such as restricting settlement activities or easing the blockade on Gaza.

The mainstream Arab position is still characterized by the “Arab Peace Initiative,” introduced by Saudi Arabia and unanimously adopted by the Arab League in 2002 and reconfirmed twice since then. It essentially promises Israel fully normalized diplomatic and trade relations with the Arab countries once they reach an agreement with the Palestinians. Israel has dismissed the proposal from its outset. Saudi Arabia and the UAE are now signaling they are prepared to improve relations with Israel beyond the terms set by the initiative. Israel would be wise to recognize that the price for strategic cooperation with Arab countries and regional recognition of its de facto legitimacy have never been lower.

Israeli leaders might be tempted to believe that if they wait longer, the concessions required of them will drop still further still. That would be a mistake. The cost of normalized diplomatic ties is never going to be zero. These countries are constrained by both their long-standing diplomatic and political positions, genuine values, and honest assessment of the destabilizing political impact of the ongoing occupation that began in 1967 (and hence entering its 50th year with no end in sight).

 

Are YOU actually saying that someone SHOULD ne prosecuted for anything because allegations might later turn out to be true?!? What the actual ****? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? This is absolutely insane and moronic.

 

That doesn't answer my question. You are answering my question with a strawman question. No one said anything about prosecuting people for anything (see the word ALLEGATIONS). You are deliberately being obtuse. There are serious allegations of several crimes being committed by one Donald Trump. I didn't make any of them up. You can read about all these allegations just about everywhere.

When police find evidence of a crime being committed (even if just comes from one eyewitness who makes a claim), they usually obtain an arrest warrant based on PROBABLE CAUSE (see 4th Amendment), the person is then prosecuted and a guilty or not guilty verdict is rendered usually based on the facts and evidence.

Nothing, it is common law doctrine as generally practiced in the US (see above). Being charged with a crime, arrested and prosecuted does not mean one is guilty. But many are prosecuted whether they are eventually found guilty or not.

So standard criminal justice procedure is "insane and moronic"?

Now answer at least the first question if you're capable. And for bonus points answer the other two questions. Thanks.

Note: All the above applies to impeachment as well. Impeachment does not mean guilty.

 

Thank you for your input - if only PF had more insightful posts like that.

 

Clinton.

 

Oh, thought you said credible links.