Men Are FAILING Yet Media STILL Turns It Into A Women's Problem

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  1. gorfias

    gorfias Well-Known Member

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    Men Are FAILING Yet Media STILL Turns It Into A Women's Problem

    This isn't that new an idea. Christina Hoff Sommers has been taken to task. She wrote, "The War on Boys" but is accused of simply being concerned that society is failing to make useful gender thralls.

    Is male failure a problem for women? Primarily? Is this something we should, as a society, try to reverse? If so, why or why not? Your thoughts are invited.
     
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    TrackerSam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You haven't explained the problem. What specifically are you referring to?
     
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    I already saw that article. The title is almost funny. I even wondered if it wasn't some trolling.
     
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    A better title for the article: "Women Can't Find Rich Husbands; Men to Blame"
     
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    I watched a Tim Pool video recently and wasn't impressed. He doesn't do any research before posting videos, and this one I watched, he hadn't even fully read the article. What he provides is a centrist lefty take on far left drivel in a TV guide condensed format, along with quite a bit of subjective commentary and overall ignorance on the subject.

    In other words, sorry, but my time is worth more than his videos provide.
     
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    I remember watching this video of a bunch of "successful black women" who were complaining about the same thing. It was really quite bizarre. They were saying that all they want is a black guy as successful as they are, but for some reason, successful black men want young beautiful women.

    Can you imagine a successful black man not wanting to marry a 30 something over the hill broad who has hit the wall when he can date dozens of younger and much prettier women who just want to have a good time?
     
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    I'm not even sure that men are failing. Well, a lot of men fail to enter in the job market, but some don't even care about it anymore.

    Yes feminism can't do a lot against the things that men tend to be attracted by young pretty women and women by successfull men with an important social status.
    It's BTW an over simplification.
     
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    Black women have it worst than any other group on the marriage front.

    Single, Black, Female -- and Plenty of Company

    Forty-two percent of U.S. black women have never been married, double the number of white women who've never tied the knot.

    Let's take 100 black men. By the time you eliminate those without a high school diploma (21 percent), the unemployed (17 percent) and those ages 25-34 who are incarcerated (8 percent), you have only half of black men, 54 percent, whom many black women find acceptable.

    As a prosecutor, Marchand sees this problem firsthand every day.

    "It is sad to see that the majority of the defendants that we prosecute are black males," Marchand said. "Those numbers can be very disappointing."
     
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    Blame Feminism!

    And its many spinoffs like the increase in two income homes.
    AntiFeminism.jpg



    BTW I would raise taxes on the lower, second income to
    encourage one income homes again.
     
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    Is inter racial marriage that much a taboo in the USA ?

    It's true that I notice more black male with white female where I live, but inter racial unions seems to be rather rare in USA.
     
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    That argument is based on the racist premise that black women have to marry only black men.
     
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    The issue in the US is that there seems to be a big cultural taboo within the Black Community, for women to marry out. Black men marry outside their race all the time, but Black Women are the group that has the least interracial marriage.
     
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    That seems to be a common opinion among Black women. Tell them about it.
     
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    I'll do that next time I run into one. I'm sure it would go over well.
     
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    Your normal black girl who is just black has it way better than this lot...



    SJW black women would probably have to take a backseat to that thot sleeping in the dumpster.
     
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    Interracial marriage hasn't been "taboo" in the U.S. for several decades, the last it would have raised eyebrows anywhere I've lived was sometime in the late 1980s. I live in the very buckle of the Bible Belt South, and see black male/white female couples all the time, no one cares. It's relatively rare to see black female/white male, but no one would care about that either. We have a black mayor in my small city of 14% black population, and I didn't even realize it until his picture was in the paper, not a topic of conversation and certainly no scandal. No one cares about race any more in the South. That they do is a common LW lie narrative towards toxic identity politics.

    Men in general IME are far more annoyed and disgusted with the ever increasing trend of obese, not just 20 lbs overweight, but morbidly obese women of all races everywhere in the U.S. than this or that race. Land whale with in shape guy is way too common, and despite feminist drivel, the opposite is rare unless the obese man is loaded. -That- phenomenon is the "true story" behind much of the "can't find a man" stuff. Of course they never show the large marge majority, only the svelte outliers, in the "can't find a suitable man" stuff.

    ...and only 15% or so of the people who go to my nice, modern, clean, "female accommodating to the point of having a daycare" gym regularly are female. Only a few of those women at my gym are in decent shape, not model shape, just decent. The true "male failure" in the U.S. today is failing to get an erection for a woman who weighs more than he does, looks like a pile of pasty white tattooed goo, is culturally spoiled in prevailing gynocracy culture, and a "real treat" to spend any time with.
     
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    It's a problem for everyone, since failing men make miserable fathers, and miserable fathers sire miserable children.
     
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    @Sanskrit I think that this society mislead people, especially women. When you're said all your life that "you're wonderfull", that feed your ego on a negative manner. The issue of narcissism exist for men aswell however.

    @Lil Mike That's sad for them as they're closing themselves door. I noticed however, that I'm far less attracted toward black women on average. BTW, there is exceptions. I'm far to be the only one in that case.
     
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    The difference is, in the U.S. anyway, no idea about elsewhere, harmful male "lizard brain" or more accurately "biologically motivated" behavior is culturally condemned, frequently illegal, castigated in society, has been for decades if not centuries now. Men are constantly told to improve ourselves and that we don't measure up to female standards. All the while female-centric culture -projects- unrealistic standards on women that simply do not exist, are fabricated projections of the extremely high expectations of men and male behavior.

    Equally harmful and obnoxious typically female "lizard brain" or biologically motivated behavior, OTOH, is not only not castigated or outlawed, but glorified in a gyno consumption driven, Marxist/feminist collectivist culture. Women are told constantly in media, the law, schools, etc., that they are perfect, that any restrictions or expectations of them are unreasonable, and that any bad results of such gyno-narcissism are inevitably men's fault.

    There is no equality without agency and accountability, that there is or can ever be is the greatest fallacy in feminism as it exists in the U.S.

    Thread topic is just one of myriad examples possible. Cheating is another hallmark. If he cheats, it's ALWAYS his fault and he is despicable. If she cheats? It's ALWAYS his fault and he is despicable. The worm is beginning to turn, but way too slowly.
     
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    That when men have a problem, do we, too often, see this framed as women's problems? If we see this so often, is it true? That male problems are actually women's problems? IE, "The War on Boys" is only of concern as they will make up a pool of less useful gender thralls. Should male problems be ignored by society over-all?
    Some more thoughts below...
    I blame gynocentrism. Women/Feminists did not do all the harms suffered by men in the modern world by themselves. They had a ton of help from elite men. It was 9 elite men that hallucinated a right to abortion in our Constitution. Now, an elite man can have sex with a nice girl and if she is accidentally pregnant, she can get an abortion. He's off the hook.
    Personally on taxes? I would end joint income tax. Each person must file individually. I want more financial autonomy practiced by everyone. Men should keep their funds separate from others (including a 2nd male partner).
    For 50-50 single parent homes, would you support an IVF draft of women so that men will be as likely to be the single parent of children in the home as women? Change family court law to ensure this result?
     
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