Men Only Selective Service Ruled Unconstitutional but Persists Anyway...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/m...ederal-judge-rules/ar-BBU0Om9?ocid=spartandhp

 

Most women make ***** frontline soldier's its not fair that only men get drafted but its common sense.

No point having a load of incompetent soldiers running about when other peoples lives depend on them doing their role well.

Basically treating women as equal would cost more lives than its worth.

 

Again you think equal means the same. Have you ever checked out the Israeli army..women are very competent

 

Not saying some can't be competent but its a very low percentage. Grab the avarage women off the street, give them a bit of basic training put them on the front line with a gun in their hand i don't believe they will fair too well compared to men in the same situation. In that type of work men are just better.

So you are saying women should be treated equal and should have the same responsibility as men? Ie the draft.

Or are you saying Women are as good as the men but women should be able to cherry pick what men have and leave out the responsibilities that go along with it? Ie being drafted is not fun so you will just allow that role to be filled 100% by males and 0% by females and simply ignore the discrimination?

If you believe women can do any role as good as a man, and truly believe in a fair society you should believe women get drafted at the same percentage alongside men.

 

Sure the draft persists because reality and feminism are on two different planets.

 

SJW "logic".

7=7 doesn't mean the same....

 

Poor logic. Service in the military is more than front line work. I will agree that if we went to solely physical requirements, there would be more men than women at the front lines, but there would still be women. And I don't like the idea of lowering standards just for women. Now I have no issue with lowering standards because they don't need to be as high anymore, such as when advances in equipment and technology no longer require that higher standard.

Those who don't qualify for the front lines can still serve in admin and support positions. There is no reason why women and men who don't meet front line requirements can't do these jobs and thus why women shouldn't be exempt from registering in Selective Service.

 

Equality is where the standard is set and then sex/gender never gets considered. If not many women can make the standard, too bad so sad. There will be plenty of men who don't make it either.

 

Not really thats a fantasy mate. The support and infrastructure is already in place.

In all the wars where the general population were forced to sign up its grunts on the ground that was needed.

Your kidding me if thing you think calling up a huge number of admin staff would satisfy the desprate need for frontline troops.

 

This argument runs on the false premise that all registered for Selective Service would be called up. Additionally, if we accept the premise that women for the most part would not be sent to the front lines, the grunts as you put it, then for every woman called up and sent to admin, that is one more grunt, er... man who is sent to the front lines.

 

Registered for Selective Service are called up in all serious wars. We live in a relatively peaceful time but that could change, who knows.

Look at the world wars everyone in the selected group called up did serve in the thick of if. Im from the UK.

I can agree with women doing mens jobs to free them up for war. But not all women need to be sent to the military , most women need to step up and backfill the mens job ourside the military that do get selected and keep the work ticking over until the men get back.

Its common sense really and it is already whats in place . It has always been this way and continue to do so in all wars.

The men and women should be treated exacly the same nonsense goes out the window in desperate times and common sense prevails.

Thats why feminists are not fighting for women to be equaly drafted as men, they know deep down they are not equal is some instances.

In this circumstance being actually equal to a man really does count and not just saying you are.

 

And not everyone is selected. Did you realize that they way the law is written in some countries, even the physically and mentally handicapped are required to register? From the US Selective Service web site:

Appeal to status quo fallacy. Just because it has been does.not mean it should remain so. Also common sense isn't. That is a lazy way of thinking, by assuming all people think the way you do.

I'll agree with you here. That is why I said that the standards should be set period, and if a female can meet them, put her on the front lines. If a male can't, then they don't go to the front lines. Ratio of which gender goes and doesn't is irrelevant. True equality isn't about equal numbers or equal proportions. It's about not considering the quality, in this case sex/gender, when determining who goes and who doesn't.

 

No...people have different abilities. Not all men are in combat Women were told they couldn’t fly jets, but they are doing that fine. Remember it was men who said only men should be drafted.
You keep repeating that I think men and women are the same. They aren’t...neither are all men the same. Some women make great cops and many men arent
I personally think the draft is not fair to men and I support a national service for all

 

You seem to ignoring that women are usually the child raisers and housekeepers. You act as though women are doing nothing. Why should feminists fight to go fight in wars? If you think it’s unfair, do something about it. Don’t whine, take action. We can’t fight every single battle...this sounds like your issue.

 

Are two nickels the same as one dime? But they are equal. Women worked in war hospitals..,,is that not as important

 

Blame the men who made the rules...don’t blame women

 

As usual you've got everything backwards, im saying women in general make **** frontline soliders and should not considered to be drafted up.

SO NO, I don't need to take action, the powers to be already don't want masses of incompetent drafted women as soilders as it is.

Hence there is no draft for women already in place.


"Why should feminists fight to go fight in wars? If you think it’s unfair, do something about it. Don’t whine, take action. We can’t fight every single battle..."

If feminism is about equality which it isnt they would be pushing for all aspect to be equal and not be looking for special treatment for women which they do. Basically you wanted what Men had but non of the responsibilities. Women have exactly that now yet still find things to moan about.


"women are usually the child raisers and housekeepers."

hmmm sounds like your being a bit misogynistic here.

 

LOL! You think men make rules.....that's cute.

 

Great analogy of what it would take for women to equal men.

BTW, the draft wasn't for nurses and doctors, 99% of those drafted went to the infantry without any say. Do you think it would be equal or even "the same" to put all drafted men on the front line while all women go to the back to serve as support?

 

Wow talk about prejudice. Some skinny men make lousy frontline soldiers. Some women make great front line soldiers .
Women aren’t complaining that they’re not drafted..that’s your issue.dont ask me to fight for you. Most women opposed the last wars we got ourselves into
What is so sad is that you think women who are raising the children aren’t assuming any responsibilities. Why is it misogynistic to say women are usually the homemakers and child rearers? I hope you don’t know what the word means and just made a dumb mistake otherwise you were saying that being a homemaker and child raiser is an insult to women.

 

Men are usually physically stronger. Women are usually more nurturing,
As I said, if you’re not happy with these laws. Do something

 

What is cute is that you don’t even realize that it was men who made the laws about the draft. When those laws were made women couldn’t even vote but you’re adorable thinking that wasnt so.

 

I didnt get through many posts before i damn near had a seizure at the stupidity. There are FAR more jobs than infantry in the military and many of them are just as important to winning a war as the infantry and the tankers.

For the record, I am good with women in combat roles, but not as infantry.

 

Wow... still completely clueless, its like having a debate with a 5 year old.

This is about the third or forth time i have to repeat the same thing to you. I hope this time it sinks in and you actually understand.

I don't want women drafted. It is not my issue to take up.

 

Women have every right to be included in selective service.