Men Only Selective Service Ruled Unconstitutional but Persists Anyway...

Which is still a cop out for a counter argument. What about what I said are you disagreeing with and why? The site is way to big to provide any point, and as I said there is nothing in their mission statement and principles that disagree with my posts. So on the surface it seems like you are agreeing with my stance.

 

So long as the fitness and competency standards are the same for both genders and are not watered down in any way, I am absolutely for it.

A far smaller segment of the female population will be able to or want to meet those standards, but there's nothing wrong with that. Those who can should be let in.

In Australia we are getting a heavy dose of intersectional feminism in the military. It is a plague. Long gone are the cries for equality, now it's changed to accomodation and sexism.

 

The standards have already been dumbed down.

 

Not to mention the thousands of American soldiers who did the same

 

Like what?

 

Before there was an UCMJ, American soldiers were hanged for rape.

 

Obama lowered the academic standards for the U.S. Officers Corps in the name of diversity.

All branches of the military have lowered their PFT standards including the Marine Corps so women can serve in combat arms.

 

You are misinterpreting a call for allowing women who meet the requirements as one for reducing the requirements because they're women. As noted, reducing requirements because of improvement in tech or techniques (e.g. gear now weighs less thus not as much strength needed) is not a bad thing. Most of us here are only arguing that women should be used just as much as men, and that both should be put where they do the most good. Even your website acknowledged that in their principles. Thus it makes perfect sense that women be included in a draft, and should register just like men do.

 

With the Marine Corps PFT if you don't want to do pull-ups you don't have to do pull-ups including males.

One of the last dumbing downs under the Obama administration in the name of political correctness.

 

Which you do see a lot of us here not agreeing with. But that argument does nothing to address the overall point of saying woman should be as subject to the draft as men. And quite frankly if your ability to do pull ups or not, will not affect your physical ability to do a given job in the Marines, then there is no point to having it. I have no problem with using alternate methods to determine physical readiness. What are the requirements of job A? How do we show that a person meets those requirements? Anything after that is meaningless, including gender.

 

During WW ll during the Battle of the Bulge, cooks, clerks, truck drivers, everyone found themselves being grunts.

During the Vietnam War even Air Force F-4 Phantom mechanics found themselves with a M-16 in their hands or manning a Marine Corps machine gun position.

In the Marine Corps every Marine is a rifleman first.

Even Marine FA-18 pilots are all trained and qualified to lead a Marine rifle platoon into combat.
That's why they are so freaking good at CAS.

Every American soldier, sailor and airmen should be a rifleman first and be able to fight as a grunt.

Those who can't cut the mustard should never be deployed outside of the CONUS especially in the theatre of combat.

No woman should never be allowed to be part of the ships company on a U.S. Navy warship...never never never.

Excerpt:

Making America’s Navy Great Again -> https://smallwarsjournal.com/jrnl/art/making-americas-navy-great-again

 

You still are not address the actual arguments given, but providing your own and then countering them

And...?

Again, and...?

You have yet to make an actual point as to why women should not be subjected to a draft.

Not even bothering to split these up. This does nothing to argue why women should not be subject to a draft.

We certainly agree here. It doesn't matter if they are man or woman. You don't get sent to a job/position unless and until you can show you can do it. Likewise, if you show you can do it, be you man or woman, then you are subject to being sent if the service needs you there.

Even if we assume that only men are sent to the front lines, why should women be exempt from the draft? We draft them to do all the jobs back here in the US so more men can be on the front lines. Or is pay clerk too dangerous a job for a woman? Needs of the military do include all of the non combat things that support the combat things.

 

When are we going to have full platoons of female infantry troops go into a hostile country and fight for freedom.....or will they just wear silly pink hats and nag the enemy to death?

 

It might be a good way to get rid of an enemy they can convince all the women within the culture to be ugly and horrible hags this dropping the birth rate. Worked here.

 

As the joke goes (and I've heard it from more women than men) you only need a single squad all on their period and tell them the enemy is hording all the chocolate, weapons optional.

 

That would make it worse

 

That’s an advantage. We can tell when we’re going to be nasty...men can’t so there’s no warning lol

 

Segregation? Looks like those silly pink symbolic hats worked. You mention them all the time !
Could have been worse, they could be wearing those silly MACA hats

 

Let’s use men for their muscles and women for their brains. You know like the women who broke the code in World War II

 

Step up ladies. You wanted equal....

 

Before the UCMJ a good and just officer was an enlisted man's godsend, and a lesser officer was hell on earth.

Still some of that left, but not as much.

 

60 pounds on your back now make the rounds.

 

Why would you assume that separate is equal here? I would expect every inductee to be exposed to every danger in the service there is. No exceptions, and I would require everyone to meet all of the same standards be they physical, or mental. Women deserve nothing less.

 

Before the UCMJ, military justice was harsh.

Before political correctness, the Navy had red line brigs run by U.S. Marines and the Army had red line stockades.

They were declared politically incorrect during the 1970's.

 

I don't know how it is now but it used to be that every recruit was evaluated with an intelligence test in several areas and evaluated physically during basic training and for ability for combining their intelligence with their physical ability under severe stress.

You might end up in infantry or cooking if you didn't do well. If you're weak physically the infantry will put a whip on you and MAKE you strong.

Women are the same. Some score high on intelligence tests, some are bottom of the barrel just like men, spread on a Bell curve. What you are should be what you get for an MOS. Physical weakness and "I don wanna" is corrected by FORCE.