Men's Rights

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  1. Miketo

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    SCUM Manifesto is a radical feminist manifesto by Valerie Solanas, published in 1967.[1][2] It argues that men have ruined the world, and that it is up to women to fix it. To achieve this goal, it suggests the formation of SCUM, an organization dedicated to overthrowing society and eliminating the male sex. The Manifesto is widely regarded as satirical, but based on legitimate philosophical and social concerns.[3][4] It has been reprinted at least 10 times in English, translated into 13 languages, and excerpted several times.

    The term "SCUM" appeared on the cover of the first edition from Olympia Press as "S.C.U.M." and was said to stand for "Society for Cutting Up Men".[5] Solanas objected, insisting that it was not an acronym, although the expanded term appeared in a Village Voice ad she had written in 1967.[6] Solanas held a series of recruitment meetings for SCUM at the Chelsea Hotel where she lived, but a decade later insisted that the organization was "just a literary device" and never really existed.[7]

    The Manifesto was little-known until Solanas attempted to kill Andy Warhol in 1968. This event brought significant public attention to the Manifesto and Solanas herself.[8][9] While some feminists, such as Florynce Kennedy and Ti-Grace Atkinson, defended Solanas and considered the Manifesto a valid criticism of patriarchy, others, such as Betty Friedan, considered Solanas's views to be too radical and polarizing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUM_Manifesto

    Funny how this woman wanted to kill men to solve the so called issue and it's funny that is what feminists are doing now. Men in higher paying jobs are losing their jobs.
     
  2. Renee

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    I never said my husband is stronger than I am....you’re pulling a trump! My husband is a very strong man and a very successful man but in your world that means I am less.What is also interesting Is that it is OK for a woman to have a stronger husband but yet in society for a man to have a stronger wife is a stigma to some . We just had an experience with some ignorant person who actually said to my husband “does it bother you that your wife make so much money?” I make speeches and yes I get paid what I think is too much money. My husband llaughed...he retired from Wall Street in his forties..because he could. He laughingly told the guy, “yes it kills me when she comes home with those checks”
    I agree with my student who said that what a male does has more value...Why do you suppose that men don’t go into female dominated professions? Why do you suppose that men’s professions usually pay more? Why do you suppose we take away baby dolls from boys but the girls trucks. Why do you suppose we socialize our boys to be unlike girls. The socialization begins very early. I changed that structure in my school
    When they had different shop classes for boys and girls..and the library had boys books and girls books!
    I find it a little annoying how you change what I say I never said that men cannot care for a child. You keep making up these things that I say and it’s very annoying and childish. Of course men can care for children I have said that repeatedly. I think dad’s can be just as nurturing but yes they don’t choose to do it because society does not look positively on it.
    I am sorry that you are projecting your marriage onto mine. I don’t have to complain to my husband but obviously you have a wife who needs to complain to you or is it about you. And yes I don’t care if I make people angry, I did that in the past and the results have been incredible. I could be like you and just whine and do nothing. I speak to thousands of people over the year dealing with prejudice and awareness and it would do you good if you could take my class .
    And I love it when people like you cloak your self in self righteous indignation about being attacked, while you shoot the barbs. You remind me of trump you can give it but you can’t take it. And I’m sorry about your marriage......
     
  3. Renee

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    She is to feminism what the kkk is to Christianity...
     
  4. Chester_Murphy

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    Do you have reading comprehension issues? I'm not going to reply to this nonsense.



     
  5. Miketo

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    Who are you asking?
     
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    The person I quoted, of course.
     
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    Well ,with exceptions, men's professions are either far less pleasant or dangerous or riskier to follow or sometimes more than one. If women entered Petroleum Engineering and wanted to take the risk of not finding petroleum and losing their jobs or finding a large amount of oil and get a fat bonus and a raise then they would earn more than being a social worker or a teacher the former engineers work is capitalism wise of far more value to the system. You can extend this to non-college work a trash collector and processor earns more than a salesperson since the work stinks and can be dangerous. Its largely on women here if they want to do such work the laws favor them and unions and the like will tend to have to support them or face lawsuits but women don't seem in large numbers matching me to choose such work. Also men one on one is far more competitive and bump horns so to speak to determine status in whatever group they are in business, science, social activism, teaching and hell table top/card gaming is competitive ever been to a major con tournament and play Magic the Gathering or Yugioh? Women compete to but usually in beauty or some other common areas they teamwork and work together admirable but not prone to be also willing to take risks.

    Renee, your a woman, let me ask this if you had inherited a small company and wanted go into a business whole hog would you risk it and all you have for one shot even if your own board of directors and your friends and family said you were taking too big a risk? Howard Hughes did, Columbus did, the Conquistadors did, the Crusaders did, Edison did and more its a male trait to risk sometimes everything to get ahead of the pack. The world we have is based on European men largely crushing everyone else to expand and profit and advance sciences and technology and exploring and more even if on the backs of people of color which I agree they did in various levels. Frankly few women have that kind of moxie not saying never just it was white men then men in generally that built the world and if it was up to women we would never be where we are now men don't do things by committee very often they take committee advice and then do what they want. Just look at Trump, okay he is a bad example.
     
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    I don’t agree with you about women today. In the past I would have agreed with you when women owned three percent of businesses but today it’s more like 33 percent and that means they are taking big risks .. I don’t see it as a virtue that men will take committee advice and then do what they want.
    You cited people who took big risks and there are others who took risks with others.
    I also don’t agree with you that men’s professions are less pleasant. Some are but some aren’t.Traditional male jobs like lawyers and accountants and doctors are quite pleasant and that is why they are no longer traditional male jobs, thanks to the women’s movement
     
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    Of course you’re not! You can’t respond intelligently You don’t even realize what you write......you write bullshit and then deny you write it,..you can’t back up your nonsense so you run away like a scared little,boy....you’re a waste of time
     
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    Oh Renee, you are so brainwashed and biased you cannot see. You have tunnel vision and black and white thinking. That's very bad for teaching.
     
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    Women are superior to men anyway.
    So no contest, nolo contendre.
    Men may have more upper body strength.
     
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    80% of all patents are held solely by men - recently!
    https://www.thenation.com/article/80-percent-of-patents-belong-solely-to-men/

    Many men are driven to solve problems and take risks. Most women aren't.

    I've been successfully inventing and developing new technology for most of my life - over 40 years - and have yet to meet a woman with the innovation fire in her belly. True innovators don't do it because they want to. They do it because they have to.

    If innovation depended on women, we would still be driving horse-drawn carts.

    What is a sure sign that an inventor is serious about his work? He wife left him long ago.
     
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    40 Famous Inventors

    A list of famous inventors from Archimedes to Tim Berners-Lee.

    [​IMG]Archimedes (287 BCE – c. 212 BCE) Archimedes of Syracuse was an ancient Greek mathematician, physicist, engineer, inventor, and astronomer. Amongst other things he calculated pi and developed the Archimedes screw for lifting up water from mines or wells.


    [​IMG]Cai Lun (50–121 CE), Chinese inventor of paper. Cai Lun was a Chinese political administrator credited with inventing modern paper and inventing the paper-making process. His invention included the use of raw materials such as bark, hemp, silk and fishing net. The sheets of fibre were suspended in water before removing for drying.


    [​IMG]Leonardo Da Vinci (1452–1519) Italian artist, scientist and polymath. Da Vinci invented a huge range of machines and drew models that proved workable 3-500 years later. These included prototype parachutes, tanks, flying machines and single-span bridges. More practical inventions included an optical lens grinder and various hydraulic machines.


    [​IMG]Galileo (1564–1642) Italian scientist. Galileo developed a powerful telescope and confirmed revolutionary theories about the nature of the world. Also developed an improved compass.


    [​IMG]Sir Isaac Newton (1642–1726) English scientist. Newton invented the reflecting telescope. This greatly improved the capacity of telescopes and reduced optical distortion. Newton was also a great physicist and astronomer.


    [​IMG]Thomas Savery (c. 1650–1715) English inventor. Savery patented one of the first steam engines which was pioneered for use in pumping water from mines. This original Savery steam engine was basic, but it was used as a starting point in later developments of the steam engine.


    [​IMG]Thomas Newcomen (1664–1729) English inventor who created the first practical steam engine for pumping water from mines. He worked with Savery’s initial design, but significantly improved it, using atmospheric pressure which was safer and more effective for use in mines to remove water.


    [​IMG]Jethro Tull (1674–1741) English agricultural entrepreneur. Tull invented the seed drill and horse-drawn hoe. The seed drill improved the efficiency of farming and led to increased yields. It was an important invention in the agricultural revolution which increased yields prior to the industrial revolution.


    [​IMG]Abraham Darby (1678–1717) English Quaker, inventor and businessman. Darby developed a process for producing large quantities of pig iron from coke. Coke smelted iron was a crucial raw material in the industrial revolution.


    [​IMG]John Harrison (1693–1776) English carpenter and clockmaker. He invented a device for measuring longitude at sea. This was a crucial invention to improve the safety of navigating the oceans.


    [​IMG]Benjamin Franklin (1705–1790) American polymath who discovered electricity and invented the Franklin stove, the lightning rod and bifocals. Franklin was also an American statesman and an influential figure in the development of modern America.


    [​IMG]William Cullen (1710–1790) Scottish physician and chemist. He is credited with inventing the basis for the first artificial refrigerator, although it took others to make his designs suitable for practical use.


    [​IMG]John Wilkinson (1728–1808) English industrialist. John ‘Iron Mad’ Wilkinson developed the manufacture and use of cast iron. These precision-made cast iron cylinders were important in steam engines.


    [​IMG]Sir Richard Arkwright (1732–1792) English entrepreneur and ‘father of the industrial revolution.’ Arkwright was a leading pioneer of the spinning industry. He invented the spinning frame and was successful in using this in mass-scale factory production.


    [​IMG] James Watt (1736–1819) Scottish inventor of the steam engine, which was suitable for use in trains. His invention of a separate condensing chamber greatly improved the efficiency of steam. It enabled the steam engine to be used for a greater range of purpose than just pumping water.


    [​IMG]Alessandro Volta (1745–1827), Italian physicist, credited with inventing the battery. Volta invented the first electrochemical battery cell. It used zinc, copper and an electrolyte, such as sulphuric acid and water.


    [​IMG]Sir Humphrey Davy (1778–1829) English inventor of the Davy lamp. The lamp could be used by miners in areas where methane gas existed because the design prevented a flame escaping the fine gauze.


    [​IMG]Charles Babbage (1791–1871) English mathematician and inventor. Babbage created the first mechanical computer, which proved to be the prototype for future computers. Considered to be the ‘Father of Computers,’ despite not finishing a working model.
     
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    [​IMG]Michael Faraday (1791–1867) English scientist who helped convert electricity into a format that could be easily used. Faraday discovered benzene and also invented an early form of the Bunsen burner.


    [​IMG]Samuel Morse (1791–1872) American inventor Morse used principles of Jackson’s electromagnet to develop a single telegraph wire. He also invented Morse code, a method of communicating via telegraph.


    [​IMG]William Henry Fox Talbot (1800–1877) British Victorian pioneer of photography. He invented the first negative, which could make several prints. He is known for inventing the calotype process (using Silver Chloride) of taking photographs.


    [​IMG]Louis Braille (1809–1852) French inventor. Louis Braille was blinded in a childhood accident. He developed the Braille system of reading for the blind. He also developed a musical Braille, for reading music scores.


    [​IMG]Kirkpatrick Macmillan (1812–1878) Scottish inventor of the pedal bicycle. Kirkpatrick’s contribution was to make a rear wheel driven bicycle through the use of a chain, giving the basic design for the bicycle as we know it today.


    [​IMG]James Clerk Maxwell (1831–1879) Scottish physicist and inventor. Maxwell invented the first process for producing colour photography. Maxwell was also considered one of the greatest physicists of the millennium.


    [​IMG]Karl Benz (1844–1929), German inventor and businessman. Benz developed the petrol-powered car. In 1879, Benz received his first patent for a petrol-powered internal combustion engine, which made an automobile car practical. Benz also became a successful manufacturer.


    [​IMG]Thomas Edison (1847–1931) American inventor who filed over 1,000 patents. He developed and innovated a wide range of products from the electric light bulb to the phonograph and motion picture camera. One of the greatest inventors of all time.


    [​IMG]Alexander Bell (1847–1922) Scottish scientist credited with inventing the first practical telephone. Also worked on optical telecommunications, aeronautics and hydrofoils.


    [​IMG]Nikola Tesla (1856–1943) American Physicist who invented fluorescent lighting, the Tesla coil, the induction motor, 3-phase electricity and AC electricity.


    [​IMG]Rudolf Diesel (1858–1913), German inventor of the Diesel engine. Diesel sought to build an engine which had much greater efficiency. This led him to develop a diesel-powered combustion engine.


    [​IMG]Édouard Michelin (1859–1940), French inventor of a pneumatic tire. John Dunlop invented the first practical pneumatic tyre in 1887. Michelin improved on this initial design to develop his own version in 1889.


    [​IMG]Marie Curie (1867–1934) Polish born French chemist and physicist. Curie discovered Radium and helped make use of radiation and X-rays.


    [​IMG]The Wright Brothers (1871–1948) American inventors who successfully designed, built and flew the first powered aircraft in 1903.


    [​IMG]Alexander Fleming (1881–1955), Scottish scientist. Fleming discovered the antibiotic penicillin by accident from the mould Penicillium notatum in 1928.


    [​IMG]John Logie Baird (1888–1946) Scottish inventor who invented the television and the first recording device.


    [​IMG]Enrico Fermi (1901–1954) Italian scientist who developed the nuclear reactor. Fermi made important discoveries in induced radioactivity. He is considered the inventor of the nuclear reactor.


    [​IMG]J. Robert Oppenheimer (1904–1967), United States – Atomic bomb. Oppenheimer was in charge of the Manhattan project which led to the creation of the first atomic bomb, later dropped in Japan. He later campaigned against his own invention.


    [​IMG]Alan Turing (1912–1954) English 20th century mathematician, pioneer of computer science. He developed the Turing machine, capable of automating processes. It could be adapted to simulate the logic of any computer algorithm.
     
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    [​IMG]Robert Noyce (1927–1990) American 20th-century electrical engineer. Along with Jack Kilby, he invented the microchip or integrated circuit. He filed for a patent in 1959. The microchip fueled the computer revolution.


    [​IMG]James Dyson (1947– ) British entrepreneur. He developed the bag-less vacuum cleaner using Dual Cyclone action. His Dyson company has also invented revolutionary hand dryers.


    [​IMG]Tim Berners-Lee (1955– ) British computer scientist. Tim Berners-Lee is credited with inventing the World Wide Web, which enabled the internet to display websites viewable on internet browsers. He developed the http:// protocol for the internet and made the world wide web freely available.


    [​IMG]Steve Jobs (1955–2011) American entrepreneur and developer. Jobs helped revolutionise personal computer devices with the iPod, iPad, Macbook and iPhone. He is credited with inventing the new wave of hand-held personal computer devices.

    https://www.biographyonline.net/scientists/inventors.html

    They list one woman - Madam Curie

    My personal favorite female inventor is Hedy Lamar. She was hot, bold, and smart. She did the first nude film. And she came up with the idea of frequency hopping, which is still used in WiFi and Blue Tooth technology, for example. Talk about the girl with everything! :) She sounds like a woman I might be dating! :D

    PS, I had a customer who was a great-great grandchild [or so] of Charles Babbage.
     
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    Haha, she definitely sounds like a woman I might be dating! :heart:

    [​IMG]
     
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    Are you aware that the best technology schools in the country excluded women. Are you aware that women were discouraged from these fields? Are you aware now that science programs are ow filled with women when they hadn’t been in the past? I guess you don’t think history has anything to do with things. Saying women are not innovative is nothing but misogyny
    Are you aware that in the early 1980s, the ratio of boys to girls who scored above a 700 on the math section was 13-to-1; in 2005 it was 2.8-to-1. Do you think girls suddenly got smarter?
    Next you will be showing me racial differences. You’re show me how white males did better than with black males in the past. Maybe you should study history
     
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    Here’s a few more .can you imagine how much faster we would have progressed if women were granted the same opportunities as men?

    https://www.amightygirl.com/blog?p=12223
     
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    I had to laugh at this

    [​IMG]Sir Isaac Newton (1642–1726) English scientist. Newton invented the reflecting telescope. This greatly improved the capacity of telescopes and reduced optical distortion. Newton was also a great physicist and astronomer.

    Yes, and he INVENTED CALCULUS AND NEWTONIAN PHYSICS! They might have mentioned that. :rolleyes:

    Also this

    [​IMG]Jethro Tull (1674–1741) English agricultural entrepreneur. Tull invented the seed drill and horse-drawn hoe. The seed drill improved the efficiency of farming and led to increased yields. It was an important invention in the agricultural revolution which increased yields prior to the industrial revolution.

    Nothing about his fantastic rock music. Jeeeez.
     
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    Granted but what is their excuses now, men are still the ones getting these degrees in engineering and science over women especially at the advanced levels now that they can without issues get into these programs. And its still men who are the builders and innovators prove me wrong where are the women construction workers, machinists and other trades workers and those who do the engineering and other work to advance human scientific knowledge there are some but these still all heavily favor men.
     
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    And women are more than half the make up of medical and law schools and majoring in science.
    There are plenty of women in architecture and it will take a few more generations When gender roles will be less defined period.
     
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    Okay they ,save for medicine, are happy to do the 'clean work' and hell even being an MD many fields don't demand you even get dirty primary medicine a bit but psychiatry no and okay lets get to the meat and potato jobs as in actual construction work and I mean carpentry, bricklaying, welding, roofing and any other job where you can get hurt and is physically demanding. It seems to me women aren't banging down the doors to do these and well the women might design some building but good luck getting an erection up without the skilled labor.
     
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    It's tough without a woman. I agree.
     
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    neither gender has rights the other doesn't, but there are inequalities both experience in life

    the goal is to make both equal rather then separate but equal
     
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