Men's Rights

Discussion in 'Civil Rights' started by BodiSatva, Feb 26, 2017.

  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    I answered your question in full.

    Now, answer mine. Or, read you own ad hom and realize who you are describing.
     
  2. BodiSatva

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    Where did you answer my question?

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    By your logic a woman can't kill a developing human being without a medical doctor either... so it would be a crime for her to have an abortion in an alley...
     
  3. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    I pointed out that when there is an inequality the issue will be pushed in favor of those on the short end and that's how the movement will be named.

    So, there aren't any groups working for equal rights for men.
     
  4. Ritter

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    MRA:s are pathetic beta-f*gs.
     
  5. ArmySoldier

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    Well there's women's rights and men's wrongs
     
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    We only have men's and women's responsibilities!

    In the West, it is pathetic to cry about women's rights and demand more collective positive rights. Western men and women are already equal in their negative rights and that is all that really matters. Positive rights is something you deserve and have to work for yourself, you can't just demand free sh*t. :)
     
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    There's a woman's rights section and not a men's rights section simply because in general, women are seen as more important than men.

    For example, the rate of breast cancer and prostate cancer are about the same.

    In 2010, 207,090 women and 1,970 men will get new cases of breast cancer, while 39,840 women and 390 men will likely die from the disease. The estimated new cases of prostate cancer this year — all affecting men — is 217,730, while it is predicted 32,050 will die from the disease.

    However, prostate cancer research receives less than half of the funding breast cancer does.

    In fiscal year 2009, breast cancer research received $872 million worth of federal funding, while prostate cancer received $390 million. It is estimated that fiscal year 2010 will end similarly, with breast cancer research getting $891 million and prostate cancer research receiving $399 million.

    Even when it comes to private foundations, the picture is the same. For example, at the American Cancer Society, breast cancer receives about twice the number of grants as prostate cancer.
     
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    No....I suspect a DIY self abortion is probably not a crime. A so-called 'back alley' abortion being performed by a non-doctor male probably would be a crime.
     
  9. WillReadmore

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    Seriously? You want me to go searching for excuses for men to feel discriminated against?

    This isn't a game. That stats on discrimination against women are very real and cover multiple facets of everyday life.
     
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    Women are not held accountable for the consequences of their actions and choices the way men are.

    For example, when women are arrested for the same crimes as men the receive over a 60% reduced sentence and that's after being many times less likely to even be prosecuted in the first place after they have been arrested.

    That's not equal accountability.

    As an equalitarian and civil rights activist working for gender and racial equality for everyone, I believe equal accountability is equality.

    Estimating Gender Disparities in Federal Criminal Cases
    University of Michigan Law and Economics Research Paper, No. 12-018

    41 Pages Posted: 10 Sep 2012 Last revised: 14 Sep 2012

    Sonja B. Starr
    University of Michigan Law School

    Date Written: August 29, 2012

    Abstract
    This paper assesses gender disparities in federal criminal cases. It finds large gender gaps favoring women throughout the sentence length distribution (averaging over 60%), conditional on arrest offense, criminal history, and other pre-charge observables. Female arrestees are also significantly likelier to avoid charges and convictions entirely, and twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted. Prior studies have reported much smaller sentence gaps because they have ignored the role of charging, plea-bargaining, and sentencing fact-finding in producing sentences. Most studies control for endogenous severity measures that result from these earlier discretionary processes and use samples that have been winnowed by them. I avoid these problems by using a linked dataset tracing cases from arrest through sentencing. Using decomposition methods, I show that most sentence disparity arises from decisions at the earlier stages, and use the rich data to investigate causal theories for these gender gaps.



     
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    DP has a much better way -- they have Sex and Sexuality forum where all issues are discussed.
     
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    The moderation on that forum, particularly in that section, is sexist and racist.
     
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    Because no one would participate in a Men's Rights forum.
     
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    There is sexual discrimination for starters.

    Lets' consider an obvious example. If a ship is sinking, why are the women saved first and the men sentenced to death.
     
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    Because women are worth more than men!

    Nobody gives a damn about the ridiculous manosphere who just sit around crying all day. You were born with a penis, now be a man, ffs! Identity politics has to die. We do not need another movement based on physical attributes.
     
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    I would suggest that there is, or at least has recently been, a movement for women to have more of an advantage over men.
    I am not sure by what measure you would think that men are advantaged:
    Men have shorter life expectancy
    Fewer men are financially supported by their spouse, and when they are they are still resented (http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/features/n_9495/)
    Men work longer hours (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...40-minutes-time-office-female-colleagues.html)
    Women are, correspondingly, more likely to have a lower income and yet men are more likely to be homeless:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thin...gendered-issue-and-it-mostly-impacts-men.html

    By what measure do you think men are advantaged?[/QUOTE]
     
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    Well, everybody knows that women are children. Sure, they mature earlier than men, but at about age 16 they are fully developed. Whereas men start maturing around age 13 and stop at 25. This is why even a 30 year old woman, more or less, has the same mentality as a teenager.

    If something does not go their way, they will play the victim card - "Me, myself and I are like total victims and it is like soooo not my fault." Neiither can they have an actual discussion about a serious matter for longer than 10 minutes and often will they also take every disagreement personally and end up being mad and upset.

    Most of the time (I guess), the woman will stop acting, thinking and talking like a teenager when she finally becomes a mother or until she hits menopause. But, until then, Mary, 30 will be - pretty much - the same as she was when she was 16. :yes:

    Women are followers, they will conform to the men (and to the alpha-women). This means that most problems of today are to be blamed on men - A society of lousy, weak men will result in female frustration that errupts into hyper-sexualisation, feminism, ridiculous politics founded on emotion over logic and the general degeneracy of society as a whole. Women, as the children they are, need a strong father-figure to look up to and follow.
     
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    There are plenty of areas where men are the ones being disagvantaged.

    And here I thought that civil rights movements fight for equal rights, not more rights.

    Does that mean the goal of the feminist movement is for women to have an advantage over men?
     
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    Moderation of Straight Dope Message Board is much worse. Neogaf is even worse so I do not post there.
     
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    I have coined the term banndit to describe forums and/or moderators that ban many people.
     
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    What are you talking about? Did you miss your meds? :)

    Women are worth more than men? Was that sarcasm or serious?

    Let me tell you something. I married a feminist and it basically ruined my life. And I didn't begin to understand what was happening until I was holding a gun to my head and trying to pull the trigger.

    Did you know that men my age have the highest rate of suicide of any other group - a suicide rate up to ten times as often as women. Our lives have been made so miserable that we would rather be dead.

    I didn't understand that she fundamentally didn't respect men, as is true with many or most women her age. And it eats away at your life like a cancer. I could write a book about that alone.
     
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    I remember having a discussion with my ex not long before I left. I was telling her about a study that sought to determine the effects of porn on young men. But they couldn't do the study because they couldn't find any young men who weren't using porn. There was no control group!

    While scowling in disgust, my ex wife concluded that this proves that all men are perverts.

    We never had an issue with porn. In fact, she probably thought I went ten years without sex, never cheated but never used it. While it is true that I never cheated in spite of ten years with no sex, I've been using porn since I started looking at the bra and panties section in my mother's Sears catalog, just like most boys did back then.

    All men are perverts. That sums it up.
     
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    Did you miss your daily dose of pornography, fgt? :laughing:

    No, I am very serious.

    That's f*cked up, bro! :eek: I'm really sorry to hear that... :/
     
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    Why are women worth more than men? What feminist brainwashing has led you to this conclusion?

    Virtually all women my age were feminist. It's not like there was a real choice. And having been raised by a feminist, it took me years to figure out that marriage is a trap and highly biased against men.
     
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    Just saw it again: In Syria, it is a calamity because women and children were killed. That's how it was reported.

    It's no big deal that men were killed. Men don't matter.
     
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