Merkel warns US, Britain no longer reliable partners

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  1. Liberty4Ransom

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    Trump up to this point hasn't violated the constitution, unlike his last two predecessors. And yes, there is a full blown attempt to undermine our democratic process by the left, and the establishment.
    Trump wasn't elected because he was a good guy, or even a acceptable candidate. Trump was elected, because the fury at the establishment.
     
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    Really? Strange! I read in content same reasoning by a racial righty militia group in the USA! anyway...

    Not against the constitution? Mmmh ... there is freedom of religion part of your constitution and that no one can be given a disadvantage out of his religion. Sure ... now will maybe come this is for US people valid and the ban is for foreigners, but then explain me the deeper reason to put Iran on the ban list to prevent terror!

    So in conclusion: The US elected the Satan to fight the Devil! Very smart step... and causing a bunch of collateral damages!
     
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    Run! Hide!
     
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    You're aware that Obama enacted a travel ban, right? Travel bans are constitutional as well. Lower courts have put a injunction on Trump's travel ban, due to his campaign rhetoric. The lower courts have overstepped their bounds, and this will be over turned at the USSC.

    Your first point was pretty incoherent, but your last point is pretty much correct.
     
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    The effort to undermine American confidence in the system has come from Russia and Trump himself. I doubt the Russians changed any ballots, but they didn't have to.. Trump has claimed the election was rigged against him and that 5 million illegal aliens voted.

    Trump won't have much impact on domestic policy, but he will have impact on foreign policy. Drastic changes in our relationship with our Allies is more damaging than Bush's cowboy approach.
     
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    I don't engage in wild eyed conspiracy theories about Russians.

    Trump is right about our so called allies. They're not living up to their obligations. So it's time for the Europeans to either do their part, like they're obligated to do, or go on their own way. It's as simple as that.
     
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    All of that is true. Merkel's words were very carefully chosen. She had one eye in the leadership in the EU, and one on German voters.

    I find it hard to believe that Macron and Merkel coordinated their efforts, though. Although it's certainly possible.

    Both Macron's "long handshake" and Merkel's remarks were intended to send clear messages to a clueless US President.

    I doubt the Trump is barely even aware of the effect his behavior had. He made a fool of himself on the world stage, and he insulted and alienated American's oldest and most reliable allies. All for basically nothing more than the entertainment of his knuckle dragging US political base.
     
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    Ya, Europeans aren't reliable allies.
     
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    So true. After watching the drawn out diplomatic and political train wreck that was the George W Bush Adminstration, I found it hard to believe that the US would find a fool stupid enough to top it.

    But we did.

    At least Bush and Cheney had an objective. Trump doesn't even know what he's done.
     
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    You don't have to engage in any wild-eyed conspiracy theories and I am glad you don't.. However, everyone around Trump has connections with the Russian Bank of Cyprus which was notorious for money laundering and the other Russian Bank ( I can't spell its name) which was under US sanctions.

    Further.. there are all those undisclosed communications with Moscow and the effort to establish a secret backchannel link with the Kremlin before Trump took office...

    Nothing is proven.. its just stinky and gives rise to speculation about collusion. Trump simply doesn't know any better.
     
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    Well yeah.. since Trump took office.
     
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    No, since the end of WW2
     
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    You have a Russia secret police fat slob running your government and Germany's culture will be extinct within 50 years to instead just be another state of the Empire of Islam having been defeated not with a bang, but with most German's whimpering with their tails between their legs.
     
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    I disagree........ but I am sure Trump would agree with you.. Look at the speech he made from Trump Tower when he announced he was running for president.
     
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    Hahahah.. You actually think there will be an Islamic Empire? Muslims don't want an empire or even another caliphate.
     
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    A secret back channel to Moscow prevented nuclear war, during the Cuban Middle crisis. You're correct, nothing has been proven.
     
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    Why? because Trump? ROFL!!!
     
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    Trump is clueless for certain.
     
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    What is there to disagree about? Western Europe has lived pretty damn comfortable under the protection of American for a long time. Why do we need to spend money on their defense, and expect so little in return?
    NATO ceased to be relevant after the the fall of the Soviets, and has been a crutch for Europe ever since. We need to pull out of NATO, and let Merkel build her little EU army, and be done with it.
     
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    Germany will cease to exist as it historically was soon enough. The subservient submissive personalities of most Germans lead them to putting a Russian secret police agent socialist fat slob into office, who promptly set out to destroy Germany's culture and future. Neither Russia nor the USA will have to kick Germany's ass again. Germany instead opted this time to destroy itself.

    The driving force in Germany is FEAR. Fear of fighting again. Easier to just submit, turn over their women and ultimately everything else to invaders. Even inviting them in hoping they won't at least burn and bomb Germany to the ground again by surrendering before the fighting starts.

    IMPEACH SCHUMER AND PELOSI! They COLLUDED with the Russians! IT IS A FACT! Pelosi even LIED about it, trying to deny it. The Democrats have Russian agents as their leaders in Congress. This is why both are trying to hard to destroy the USA as they follow Putin's orders.
     
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    South Florida is full of Venezuelans
     
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    You are so funny ... really! Again and again this total rubbish with Germany becomes a caliphate due to fact that we have not forgotten an American core value called humanity. There are again not even 5% of people in Germany Muslims btw ... but hey, a total danger of course.
    Maybe the same danger which this dumbass in White House wants to prevent with his travel ban action? Well ... indeed very smart to put Iran on the ban list to prevent entry of Iranian terrorists when the Iranian terrorists is called Hezbollah and lives in Lebanon which is not on the ban list!
    Yeah ... stupid stays stupid and this Trainee White House even showed total geographic lack when the told that Belgium is an nice city! Sure, Belgium is little country and about large as Maryland, but I think all people will be happy if this Donald Dumbass tells or tweets "Maryland is a nice city" eh? ROFL!!!
     
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    Actually, apparently Merkel has 100% conceded to President Trump. The President demanded that Germany and other NATO countries seriously ramp up their military spending - and in response and full submission Merkel runs to the cameras demanding that NATO countries in Europe built up self-sufficient military strength - EXACTLY AS TRUMP DEMANDED!

    It appears President Trump has obtained his goal - getting NATO countries to build up their own military. It is called SUCCESS!
     
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    Did you get your knowledge about it here?

    http://www.anp14.com/about/index.php

    Obviously, because otherwise you would not write the same rubbish as these morons do all the time...
     
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    Your comment explains why we need to continue having troops in Europe. When you look at your history of concentration camps and programs and mass Graves and World Wars and colonialism and mercantilism the world was best off when when the United States dominates NATO and the Soviet Union dominated the Warsaw Pact all peeins want to do is war
     

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