#MeToo Charges Against Kavanaugh Don't Add Up

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    The Democratic party constantly sinks to new lows.

    This is nothing but a "high-tech lynching."
     
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    Collins knocks Democrats over handling of Kavanaugh assault allegation.

    “Collins asked if Democrats believed Ford, ‘why didn’t they surface this information earlier,’ and if they didn’t believe Ford, ‘why did they decide at the 11th hour to release it?'”​
     
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    Why do you think Ole Mitch wanted someone other than Kavanaugh?

    Remember, the republican leadership offered 2 alternatives.

    Either they were concerned about Kavanaugh's clearly partisan leanings and his political diablerie under the Bush Admin, or, perhaps, someone knew of these allegations all along.
     
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    New low indeed. Democrat's goal is to delay this appointment until they retake the senate (IF they retake it), and this baseless accusation at the 11th hours is just another tactic to stall the vote. Republican's are not going to allow the stall tactic to work, and Democrats will use this as "evidence" that Republicans support rape/sexual assault/war on women, etc. Hopefully it will come to bite Democrats in the butt later when this accusation falls apart, like it is already starting to.
     
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    How is it starting to fall apart?
     
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    I think he is innocent -- this is not something I would be pushing if I were a dem Senator.
    The Dems need to find other ways to prevent a vote being held on a Supreme Court pick for another year and a half, that would be the more Republican thing to do.
     
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    technically she reported it to her Therapist in 2012 (confirmed by the Therapist) so this isnt' a 'new' allegation per-say. Just new to the political-sphere
     
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    No witnesses, 170+ women came forward to vouch for Kavanaugh, Ms. Ford can't recall any details of that night, the fact that Feinstein received the letter in July and did nothing with it until the 11th hour of the hearing, the fact that Ms. Ford is an active anti-Trump activist, etc., etc... So far, no evidence has been presented, it is a he-said/she-said which any court of law would throw out.
     
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    I am pretty sure most courts would throw a he said she said out. However, a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land deserves additional scrutiny. Moreover, something needs to be said for the slime trail - Kavanaugh's time as a political operative for the Bush admin, which even caused Dirty Ole Mitch pause.

    I for one think it's probably grand standing, but, it ought to be looked at seriously, because this is, again, a lifetime appointment.
     
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    The seriousness of the charge, rather than the veracity of the claim, is all the matters - says the liberal.
     
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    If this accusation would have come up earlier in the hearing, I might agree with you. But the fact that the left chose the 11th hour to release this tells me that they don't even believe it and this was a last ditch effort to delay.
     
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    If the accusation had come up when he was confirmed to his current position...
     
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    There's a difference between the democrats, liberals and the left.

    And of course they will delay. The democrats are still fuming about Garland, and this is politics. You don't get off easy because you control congress.
     
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    So we agree this is political grand standing...

    I believe most would agree that Feinstein is a leftist, but I could be wrong.
     
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    I'm so tired of the partisan bullsh*t and theatrics. I think the Democrats are setting a bad precedent here. Will this become the new norm --- throwing out unverifiable eleventh hour accusations to stall the opposing party? Is there a stable full of #resist idiots waiting to fall on their swords with fictional decades-old #metoo claims against [insert opponent's name here] ?
     
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    Oh please, spare me. You know as well as I do that this began far before the democrats - Benghazi ring a bell?

    Both sides are kicking the football here, stop assigning outrage to only one party.
     
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    For the most part, yeah, I think it is. I actually would bet what this woman said is true. But Feinstein is playing politics here, and I also think; goose, gander. The republicans acted like petulant, spoiled children for 8 years and the dems are doing it for 2, going on 3.

    I think Feinstein is a leftist; I do not think all democrats or liberals or progressives are leftists.
     
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    Apparently I touched a nerve.

    If the Republicans were pulling a stunt like this, I would be equally disapproving.
     
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    Do you really think that the Republicans did otherwise in this long history of replacing a judge of the Supreme Court!

    Really ... this dispute and "throwing dirt on each other" for a new judge candidate was nealry always given in US history!

    And about dirt throwing in general:
    I can still remember one of these bull**** reports and accusations in election campaign which stand like a golden example that the Republicans do the same:

    Hillary is so bad and to blame because the driver of their tour bus allegedly illegally disposed of the contents of the mobile toilet on board!

    No, I'm not a fan of Hillary ... but such a BS flew back and forth from both sides countless times ...! It is no different now!
     
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    The republicans have pulled plenty of stunts through Obama's tenure.

    We had 8 years of spineless crying and ***** footing around by a bunch of elected officials who refused to do their job. They bitched, obstructed, created fake scandals left and right. Surely you were here for those 8 years.
     
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    So two wrongs makes a right..? Or can you stick to the topic of this thread, and give us your opinion on the latest "dirt throwing" which I and many others believe is a new low even for "dirt throwing".
     
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    Exactly ...

    And there are still enough low brains who actually believe that Obama is not American at all and not born in the USA ... others still believe or argue he is a Muslim ... and what else of such BS too!
    No, I did not think Obama's policy was great in the end ... but all those BS claims that the now crying right side has brought up against Obama, they forgot suddenly again!
     
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    Really ... some sort of Alzheimer maybe?

    A hint: Victoria Nourse ... some bells ringing now?
     
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    Read about Supreme Court nominations over the years - there is a history of theatrics going back nearly to Washington. It's always been a political nightmare.
     
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    Not following you, was Victoria Nourse accused of sexual assault to derail her nomination to the 7th? Where did I claim that the Republican's never tried/succeeded in derailing nominations (that is politics)? Not sure how this is the same as lowering the bar to the point of 11th hour baseless "#metoo" accusations, but I would love to see your explanation.
     
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