Mexico border wall: Trump orders aides to seize private land and disregard environmental rules

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  1. signalmankenneth

    signalmankenneth Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like Trump is getting desperate, poll numbers sucking and his mental faculties are in steady decline too?!!

    I hope the land owners put up a fight, both legal and physical too!


    If Trump's goons kill a landower, protecting his or her land, he can kiss his re-election chances goodbye!

    President Donald Trump is so eager to complete hundreds of miles of border fence ahead of the 2020 presidential election that he has directed aides to fast-track billions of dollars' worth of construction contracts, aggressively seize private land and disregard environmental rules, according to current and former officials involved with the project.

    He also has told worried subordinates that he will pardon them of any potential wrongdoing should they have to break laws to get the barriers built quickly, those officials said.

    Trump has repeatedly promised to complete 500 miles of fencing by the time voters go to the polls in November 2020, stirring chants of "Finish the Wall!" at his political rallies as he pushes for tighter border controls.

    But the US Army Corps of Engineers has completed just about 60 miles of "replacement" barrier during the first 2½ years of Trump's presidency, all of it in areas that previously had border infrastructure.

    The president has told senior aides that a failure to deliver on the signature promise of his 2016 campaign would be a letdown to his supporters and an embarrassing defeat.

    With the election 14 months away and hundreds of miles of fencing plans still in blueprint form, Trump has held regular White House meetings for progress updates and to hasten the pace, according to several people involved in the discussions.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexico-bo...072616021.html


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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Trump never cared about private property rights and was the only GOP candidate singing the praises of eminent domain during the debates. Anything for his vanity project.
     
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    Awesome news.....it's long past time to plug the leaks along the border. I don't know why liberals get all up in arms about Trump building a border wall, after all you say walls don't work so the liberal utopian dream of browning the country into shithole status shouldn't be affected.

    BTW, he has the constitutional authority to seize private land. Don't like it? Change the Constitution.

    BUILD THAT BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL. :applause::flagus: :flagus: :flagus:
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Some people actually care about private property rights and about economic conservatism. Who knew?
     
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    And some people actually care that if we don't stop the damn invasion coming across the Southern Border then you won't have any property rights or Constitution anyway.

    If you don't like the 5th Amendment, get off your ass and get it repealed. Until then, Trump is trying his best to save this country. I realize that burns a lot of liberal's asses, but it is what it is. Hillary lost too. Suck it up. As the messiah said, "Elections have consequences".
     
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    Fun. Unrealistic paranoia, but entertaining.

    Trump is doing his best to steal land from unwilling private citizens to complete his vanity project. He cares about personal image, not "saving" the country from things that aren't actually an existential threat. New proposal for Trump's 2020 campaign slogan: "The sky is falling! The sky is falling." I miss the days when the GOP and conservatives stood for more than irrational panic. And stop pretending to care about the Constitution until you learn to care about the tax and spending part of it. "Just compensation" can only come from the treasury. Congress has power over treasury spending, not the President.

    Ask a liberal. I'm a libertarian. As I said, unlike the Trumpists I actually care about property rights and economic conservatism.

    I didn't vote for Hillary, but thanks for the token nonsense.

    You mean Obama . . . who I said should have gone through impeachment hearings? Your messiah is the problem now.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I remember more than a few incidents when ranch owners on the border made citizen's arrest of illegal aliens trespassing across their ranch and the SPLC with the approval of the political left sued the ranch owners for protecting their private property rights from trespassers.
     
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    Take it up with the SPLC.
     
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    The SPLC got punked and exposed being a leftist hate group that was running a financial scam of spreading hate and fear with in the liberal community and are now picking up all of the pieces and trying to clean house and remake itself.

    The question for liberals...how may liberals were punked by the SPLC ?
     
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    Take it up with the SPLC. Or keep dodging. That works too.
     
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    Yeah, encouraging people, federal officials to commit crimes. Trump's blatant corruption in full display. My money is on Trump has done worse as POTUS, that has yet to be revealed. I can't believe no one in the wh staff has stood up to him, e.g., Attorney General Barr, as it is his responsibility. Yet Barr has just spent $30k to use one of Trump's places. Can't get much more blatant.
     
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    You're welcome to present any actual case where this happens.

    Until then you might want to ignore the screeching.
     
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    A case where people care about property rights and economic conservatism? That's already been presented. But good to know that Trumpists have sacrificed all values beyond Trump worship and now call any exercise of principles beyond this worship "screeching." Cool cool.
     
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    Trump doesn't care about "Property Rights".

    All that Trump has done since being elected IS:

    1) Crap all over The Constitution.
    2) Crap all over Hard-Working Taxpayers (and All Americans).
    3) Denigrate the Dignity of the Office of POTUS.
    4) Make the USA a Worldwide Laughingstock.


    So?

    Why would Trump even care?
     
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    Such is TDS. BTW, I enjoy my tax cut.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes yes, Trump bad. Trump take all my house.

    When it happens somewhere other than your imagination and unnamed sources, let someone know.

    Oh and just for fun, what world leader makes Trump look like a "laughing stock"?
     
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    You'll notice that someone is saying he said that, and that, to my knowledge, it hasn't even happened.

    That's called screeching. You know, "the sky is falling" , "turn to page 5 in Fire and Fury", "Trump has killed more people than Hitler, Pol Pot and Stalin" et al.
     
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    I don't know where you were going with the last sentence, but eminent domain has always been a part of Trump's magic wall proposal.
     
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    That is nice, an illegal alien cut would be nicer.
     
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    Today's news so far:

    - Trump is aggressively building the wall (see the OP)

    - Trump's China policies are working (Google is moving production from China to Vietnam, the market is stable and going up)

    - the libs are hysterical, throwing temper tantrums, spreading fake news (not really a news but...)

    Not bad so far lol
     
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    Why don't you back up that big mouth of yours and not use any interstate highways from now on?

    I love it when liberals (masquerading as libertarians) go into screech mode about Trump violating the Constitution. It's like all liberals who previously used the Constitution as toilet paper are all-of-a-sudden conservatives. :roflol:

    Libertarians are pro open border. You really don't give a damn about eminent domain or the Constitution....you only care about the border being sealed up. So cry me a rio grande. :flagus:
     
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    Liberals act like eminent domain is some new law created by Trump. Sad part is many of them probably actually believe that
     
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    Actually President Trump has upheld the oath of President and is defending the Constitution and is enforcing the laws of the nation that are already on the books.

    Obama sure didn't.

    Hard working Americans didn't vote for Hillary and rarely vote for socialist.
    Haven't seen a U.S. Marine holding an umbrella since Trump became POTUS.
    Melania doesn't have a watermelon patch on the White House grounds.

    Who's laughing ???

    The Democrats aren't laughing.
    The EU isn't laughing.
    The Chi-Coms aren't laughing.
    Putin isn't laughing.
    Iran isn't laughing.
    ISIS isn't laughing.
    Illegal aliens aren't laughing for the first time since the invasion began during the early 1970's.
     
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    Yeah that goes back further than Trump and most of us talking about it.
     
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    Few libertarians favor completely open borders. I see you still value Lord Trump over the Constitution. You are free to it. Should you decided to engage in the truth in the future instead of "everyone who agrees with me, even from the right, is a leftist" imaginary nonsense, you should pay attention to the parts of the Constitution that deal with taxes and spending. Trumpists would prefer to pretend that part of the Constitution doesn't exist, but it does exist. Our interstates, for example, were built while obeying that part of the Constitution. Trump's aims with the border wall do not. All-of-the-sudden anti-Contitutional authoritarians (or maybe that's what they were all along) have some catching up to do.
     
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