You remind me of the jackass preacher who asked my friend why he "caused" his wife to cheat on him. He is no longer welcome at that church-it seems a right hook is NOT an appropriate response to that question. (Yes, he decked the pastor.)
How? Short of keeping her locked up 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, or having her terrified that cheating will get her murdered, it is not possible.
Those men gave women's healthcare 4 times more funding than men's healthcare It's not like those men discriminated against women, unless you think 4 times more funding is discrimination???
I really don't understand MGTOW. I agree with a lot of their points of Feminism and hypergamy, but they have spiked it beyond victimhood. It's a guy's version of feminism. Constantly telling themselves they are over women, that they need the label, because they truly are not over it. Similar to "I'm so over men, I don't need a man!" The constant need to label and generalize. This is why most guys are not MGTOW. Then there is they constant complaining and demonization of women. "Hur, hur, hypergamy! She will never love you!" It's basically what feminist say: "he only likes you cuz your hot!" Hypergamy and fertile women have always ran societies. The problem is modern culture has just inflated hypergamous behavior. And it's not just women's fault, but f*ckboy men who give those women the options. "Hur, der, love me for who I am not by muh income" yeah like anyone wants to be with a fatass who lives in his mom's basement? It's like women who say "I don't want to loose weight or shave my armpit hair for someone, I want them to love me the way I am!"
Maybe because women in your society have so much social pressure put on them that they dare not. Why do women wear certain clothes in certain countries? Social pressure
Link??! BTW until and unless men become pregnant women's health should be funded under a different model
My ex set out to destroy my life. There is no doubt in my mind that it was a control issue. When I realized her scam, that our entire marriage was a lie, and didn't trust her anymore, she lost all her power. None of her bs worked any more. This made her more and more angry to the point of rage. Eventually I was hearing stories from her lawyer [told to my lawyer] about her tantrums in the office. One day she ran out of court when the judge was talking to her. Everyone complained about her rants and tirades including the real estate agent. A woman scorned. All I wanted was to get the hell away from her. But I still wanted to be sure we would both be okay. All she wanted was to ruin me. She didn't show an inking of concern for me at all. She just wanted to destroy me. Not long before I left, I even started to suspect she was trying to do me in and help me to the grave. When we divorced, I discovered that she had taken out a secret life insurance policy on me. Because my name was on the policy, they started sending me the statements.
Tell me about it! She had almost everyone fooled including my mother. But looking back, my grandmother knew there as something wrong. She didn't have a strong enough feeling to intervene in our marriage but she did express a concern once that something didn't seem right. Many years later I understood what she had seen in my ex. Unfortunately it took me fifteen years to figure it out. My ex was a highly deceptive and manipulative person and I trusted her completely. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever imagine who I had married. I'm not a expert but from what I've read, she may well have been a psychopath. I came to believe she had no empathy for anyone or anything. It was all faked. And she was a total Jekyll and Hyde. She was schmoozing butt-kisser when she wants something but will turn on you like a rabid dog the next minute. I was just trying to be a good husband and grow a successful business.
I'm really sorry you had to go through that, relationships are difficult you could be with someone for years and still not really know what they would be like when things go bad. Women with personality disorders are the worst... they are usually the ones who try to keep the husband from seeing his kids and portray him as evil... I think judges are more aware these days and rarely allow the mother to get sole custody of children... in Australia anyway... but to be honest, children in a relationship with a women like that, would be cruelly used as leverage.
Let me tell you just how badly I was kicking myself. After a few years of marriage, things weren't going well. She had started cutting me off sexually on our wedding night with claims of medical problems. She got meaner and meaner and more controlling, but of course I kept second guessing myself. Marriage is hard! Everyone knows that. This must be at least partly my fault, right? We decided to get marriage counseling. But just about then, we also decided to make a big move and leave the area. We each saw the counselor once or twice and then together. When I called and told the counselor that we were moving, she asked me to come in alone; she wanted to see me again before we leave. It seemed odd but whatever. She told me point blank: Get as far away from her as possible! WTF!?!?! I sat there stunned. She was basically telling me my wife was nuts and even dangerous. But it was all so sudden and seemingly unprofessional that I had a hard time accepting what she was saying. Maybe my counselor was nuts? I didn't know what to think but we were moving the next day. I couldn't just stop my life based on the word of a stranger. So we moved and I almost had forgotten about that until many years later.
That's really tough...I could say you're lucky to get away from her but it sounds like she's left many scars... I noticed another post of yours in another thread... looks like you are pulling your life together... you will find happiness again, it may take time and be a different flavour... certainly minus the naïveté of a first marriage... either way you are enjoying your life and that is how it should be... life is too short.
Heh, thanks. The last financial complications were only recently resolved. So there are still some open wounds. But over five years ago I started my new life after very nearly committing suicide. The last five years have been AMAZING! I have lived more in the last five years than the previous 40. I have friends who consider my life now to be the stuff of dreams. And in a sense it is. I never could have dreamed the life I have lived was possible at my age. It was truly beyond my imagination. So all's well that ends well. There is nothing like staring down the barrel of a gun to help put things in perspective.
We used to call these men and I'm one a Confirmed Bachelor who just doesn't need to be with a woman to be happy. Like I like to say why marry a woman one you can just hire one to have sex with and pay them a fee perhaps for a pretty cheerleader of Streetwalker hundred bucks for an hour around where we live, there are no complications then but one must use protection but so what? I for one never found sex a big priority as in being with someone, not that I hate women, but it wasn't a big deal.
I decided to go the sugar baby route. In the beginning I was seeing high-end escorts. Having a sugar baby is a nice compromise. A sb relationship can be far more personal and rewarding than paying for sex. I still see women far too young and beautiful for me. And we genuinely have a good time together. But it doesn't come with the hook of always being sized up and judged as a potential husband. And most importantly they don't try to take over your life. I have met a lot of young women who have similar feelings about marriage. As one young woman put it, "My parents are divorced. My grandparents are all divorced. And they all hate each other. Why would I want to get married?" I believe marriage is a largely failed institution and people are looking for something else. Over half of all marriages end in divorce. Probably half of those who stay married do so out of practical need. As one retiring associate stated, why give up half my stuff at my age? And in fact it is more than half. A divorce will cost you about 2/3 of your stuff. If divorce didn't turn your life upside down, I expect the divorce rate would be closer to 75%.
Sorry, but that's a terrible attitude. I think people nowadays wait way too long with having a family and focus way too hard on their "career". If you are healthy, young and good-looking, I see no reason not to have children. I am not saying you have to get married, vut at least find a partner and do all you can to make sure it lasts forever.
It isn't an attitude. It is based on facts. Half of all marriages fail. As soon as divorce became practical [in the US] in the 70s, people flocked to divorce court. Today, people my age are divorcing at record rates. It is more important to be happy, than it is to be religious about some ancient concept that evolved when life for humans was much different. Haven't you heard; men live their lives in quiet desperation. To hell with that! I no longer accept that death sentence. And a lot of men are saying the same thing. Men commit suicide at up to ten times the rate of women. When exactly do you think we should be concerned about men? 20,000 out of 30,000 gun deaths each year are suicides. Everyone is worried about guns. But middle-age men are the largest demographic killing themselves [ourselves]. When is it time to say enough!?!?! Imagine if something was killing 20,000 women a year. That would be all over the news! Men are getting screwed to death, and I don't mean in bed. I wish that when I was a young guy, I knew what I know now. I might have avoided a lot of pain and misery. I might not have wasted over 20 years of my life. I might not have listened to all the bs about how marriage is the path to a happy life - THAT at best it is the flip of a coin.
There is a joke that is more truth than fiction: If you want to stop gay marriage, legalize gay marriage.
Marriage is a mutual contract, it is an agreement that takes lots of commitment and tons of sacrafices. But, in the long run, it will benefit not only you and your partner, but also your child and society as a whole. I am not at all buying the pop cultural mockery of marriage and family-making in favour of "finding yourself", that is an absolutely despiseful attitude that, when all comes around, is anti-human as it contradicts evolution. Even worse is the attitudes of MRA's and Feminists; both blame each other for creating marriage to oppress the other. Which is just childish and stupid. As mentioned above, marriage is highly beneficial for society and mankind as a whole. It is not some sort of heist or scam or whatever. Divorce rates may be high, but so what? I want a society where parents are not getting divorced and think it is something worth striving for. The solution is not to give up on marriage, but to take it back - institutions have disencouraged marriage/family for centuries because it is the number one enemy of big government. We need to put down the foot and take back marriage!
Keeping a commitment is not as prized today as it was in the past. The reality is that it takes both partners to fully commit. Anything less won't last. And no, that doesn't mean one stays in an abusive relationship because in that case, one partner has already broken the commitment.
MRA's don't feel marriage oppresses men our position is marriage and divorce and rights are now bent too favorably to women making it a risk to enter into for the man.
