Miami pedestrian bridge collapses killing several, police say

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  1. Pollycy

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    Here is a 'first-list' of what we need to know NOW --

    1. Were "stress tests" being conducted on the footbridge when it collapsed? If so, why hadn't traffic been completely halted in both directions and on top of the footbridge before such tests?

    2. Had some kind of official government certification of acceptance or completion been issued on this footbridge PRIOR to the catastrophe?

    3. Were all of the contractors or subcontractors fully certified and accredited to work on this specific project in ANY capacity?

    4. Were ALL employees of all contractors and/or subcontractors working legally in the United States?

    This ought to be interesting....
     
  2. navigator2

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    It was thrown up over the weekend.............and probably scheduled to be completed on weekends only.
    Oops! But in all seriousness, this sucks for the people and families involved. Sad day.
     
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    Pedestrian bridge fails before feets even get on it, unbelievable.

    Ford recalls 1.4 million vehicles because the steering wheel falls off, unbelievable.

    I'm not sure we're progressing.
     
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    I can't wait for self driving cars in rush hour on auto pilot. :D

    :eek::deadhorse:
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yeah train wreak on a epic scale, but make a good horror flick tho:omfg:
     
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    Reads like something that may have been heard at RMS Titanic's launch.
     
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    Here in the SF Bay Area we had a contractor fast building bridges and he was something special. He even moved part of the then New Oakland end of the Bay Bay Bridge and did very well.

    The idea is make the bridge along side the road. That is not a bad idea. Then pick up the finished bridge and move it to the final site. Still a good idea. They will find out fairly fast what went wrong. Was it too light of steel? Concrete not fully cured? Lousy steel in the bridge? Maybe the steel is lousy grade.

    The fall reminds me of the former double deck freeway we had here in the SF Bay area that collapsed in the 89 quake. I used to drive that road often and was pleased I was many miles from it the day it fell. Due to the then world series, the traffic was light. They never put back a two deck freeway. It took them years but the freeway now there is one level. It follows a different route too to the bay bridge.
     
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    MCM is a minority owned company
     
  9. Robert

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    That explains a lot to me. The supporting cables were not installed. Something is wrong with the design if they needed cables and did not support the bridge they just installed. You can't just put a too heavy span up that way without the supporting cables. Some engineer will have a chapped buttocks. Normally a steel substructure has to be there until the cables get installed. The structure would interfere with the traffic though.
     
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    James B. Eads built a 6400 ft. bridge across the Mississippi at St. Louis, completed in 1874. Eads had no degree, and was self-educated.

    That bridge still carries about 8,000 vehicles a day. They need to study this guy, very humbly study this guy.
     
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    I may have driven over that Bridge. I will try to check it out. I decided to cruise a bit into Illinois but it was night so I took a motel and next day went back into St. Louis and went inside the arch. Worth the trip. I was toying with the idea of going up to where Lincoln is buried.

    Nope, I drove over the bridge on Highway 55 and came back the same way. I will look at some photos since I probably saw Eads bridge from around the Arch location. A lot of excellent people at that time had no degree.
     
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    Most likely built using non-union labor.
     
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    Doubtful..........might not have made it through the weekend. Should have had some Guats put it up.
     
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    Erected in 6 hours; definitely non-union operation. Florida will never learn.
     
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    I don't think the union trains them to put them into place in 6 hours. They would use riggers and operators anyway.
     
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    Last April we were tent camping out of our van, coming south from Galena, IL (Grant's house) and down through Peoria, and saw Lincoln's house in Springfield, IL, and then headed south to the Ohio river, then southwest. My wife likes Indian mounds so we had to go into Mound City, IL to have a look. The town is just about gone now, but Eads had a big yard there, and another in Missouri, and built many of the ironclads for Civil War duty. He started out at 12 hawking apples on the streets of St. Louis. Mound City had a big military hospital and headquartered the Mississippi river naval squadron.

    We're southern folk but really like these famous good Yankees.
     
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    And in South Florida? I wonder if anybody doing the actual construction work could even speak English....
     
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    I spent 2 weeks out and about that trip. I know I missed a lot of things to see in St. Louis. My trip led me from the SF Bay area to Branson, Mo where I stayed a week. At Branson, i decided to go to St. Louis. There I decided to head west to go to Yellowstone Park and stopped off at Ft. Leavenworth to see it and Truman's library. In KS I went to Eisenhower's Museum to find it locked at that hour of the day and headed west to Denver. I mention this since I toyed with heading to Chicago, I simply did not feel I had the time for that so I missed those sites you mentioned. I did not know the significance of the Eads Bridge and still will look at my photo collection to see if it shows up in those.
     
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    Another catastrophe in another democratic ran city? Geez, its a wonder where all their tax money is going.
     
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    Every.single.time.
     
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    Which is probably why they were chosen for this project by the President of the school.
     
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    When you can load pedestrian bridges into a clip and fire pedestrian bridges from hundreds of yards away in safety and unload thousands of rounds of pedestrian bridges in a matter of minutes then we can have that conversation. Until then you look like a complete fool.
     
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    Evidently, this isn't the first time the construction firms working on the FIU bridge screwed the pooch:

     
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    Had there been hundred of students crossing over you'd be the fool now wouldn't you?
     
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    Probably too many obese people on the bridge. Ban those / more fat shaming. It kills also the innocent.
     
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