Michael Cohen Testimony Live

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    No.. Comey investigated and did not recommend prosecution... and that is also a possible outcome for Trump.....

    Be glad for that step in the process... it's another thing that separates us from proverbial shithole countries..
     
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    Comey broke down all she did and then played the "Resonable prosecutor" line and never let it go to the DoJ..

    I simply agree with Mr T legal is there a problem with that?
     
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  3. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    No, you did not.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The NY AG said they were going to investigate Trump to see if they could find any crimes.

    And no, you don't investigate people to find crimes.

    Which is what the AG will discover when they go to a judge with anything they dig up after having publicly admitted what they were going to do.
     
  5. MrTLegal

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    Find me that quote.
     
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  6. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure.

    I've got more links if NBC or NYT is too conservative for you.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ans-wide-ranging-investigations-trump-n946706

    New York Attorney Gen.-elect Letitia James says she plans to launch sweeping investigations into President Donald Trump, his family and "anyone" in his circle who may have violated the law once she settles into her new job next month.

    "We will use every area of the law to investigate President Trump and his business transactions and that of his family as well," James, a Democrat, told NBC News in her first extensive interview since she was elected last month.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/31/nyregion/tish-james-attorney-general-trump.html

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...will-use-every-area-of-the-law-to-investigate
     
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    Which you don't get by interviewing the same liar twice...
     
  8. MrTLegal

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    Oh no, those sources are just fine.

    I wish her the best of luck. She certainly has plenty of reason to suspect him and his family of criminality.
     
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    If that's true, then he won't get a reduced sentence.

    But you and I both know that's not true.
     
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    Oh really?

    What crime did she discover that was linked to Trump after investigating said crime?

    Give me deets.

    She's got, what, 70+ years or so of Trump living there to work with.

    You know as well as I do that she's ****ed in any case she brings.

    I'm just confused why they haven't sued her yet.

    Is that how the LAW works? You investigate people you think may have committed an unspecified crime?
     
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    Lol... If you think there won't be any political pressure in NY to influence his sentence following that scripted performance... But then again, your instinct when it comes to crime is abysmal, which is quite ironic for someone presenting himself as a lawyer...
     
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    Yes and that somehow proves that Blue Dog Democrats won the presidency for Trump. Please try to remember the fictions you are trying to pass offf on the more educated members.
     
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    In reverse order:

    Yes, it is. You investigate people and companies based on a reasonable suspicion that they committed a crime. By the time she was sworn into office, five different trump organizations were already under criminal investigation - including the trump charitable foundation that had just reached an agreement to dissolve because it acted illegally.

    They have no legitimate basis for suing her. "She is the attorney general and she said she is going to investigate me!" ...well yea, that is part of her job.

    Saying that you are going to investigate for any potential crimes almost certainly does not taint any case that you ultimately bring. If you have a more damnjng quote from her, something to indicate she was going to fabricate evidence - for example, then you'd have a better chance with that argument.

    She has been in office for what? 2 months now? 70 years is a lot of material to review in 2 months and New York is a big state with a lot of demands for an AG.

    I gave you several deets already and the investigation is ongoing.
     
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    Again, even if it was a scripted performance (7 hours of Q&A from hostile, ambivalent, and supportive congressmen is "scripted?"), there is zero chance that lying under oath helps to reduce his sentence.

    He has to provide substantial assistance (read: evidence that is useful in court) for the investigation or prosecution of a witness. And that assistance comes from actual interviews and documents submitted to the investigators...not his public congressional testimony.
     
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    Blue Dogs and Democrats that bailed on your Demos. That is what those leftist sources of your kind points out. Demos that voted for Obama. They couldn't make it more simpler for your kind. Although I am sure Demo Strongholds confused you.

    Just because you don't like that reality. Doesn't mean it changes that reality to one you can accept.
     
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    Maybe you should tattoo that on your arm and read again and again before you post.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition
     
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    I see you didn't even read the WAPO link. Your History of them has nothing to do with the Blue Dogs and Demos who voted for Obama then turned around and gave Trump the win in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio.

    Maybe you can blame Kasich for Ohio. But I doubt it.
     
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    It was outrageous the Dems pulled this stunt when Trump was over seas negotiating through what could be one of the greatest events in world events in decades.
     
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    Yes he did. I thought you were the self proclaimed legal expert.
     
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    You investigate a crime to see who committed it. What was the probable cause?
     
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    I asked those questions specifically because i believe that testimony is irrelevant and wanted to know why you believed it was relevant.
     
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    No Attorney General has unlimited power to go on a fishing expedition.

    https://www.jonesday.com/the-invest...-is-not-without-its-limits-02-04-2016/#_edn43

    Excerpt: Emphasis added for clarity

    So while cases limiting the Attorney General’s investigative powers may be sparse, it is nonetheless established that “no agency of the government may conduct an unlimited and general inquisition into the affairs of persons within its jurisdiction solely on the prospect of possible violations of law being discovered[.]”[43]
     
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    I thought you were the self proclaimed legal expert. There was a very relevent reason to inquire about it.
     
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