Michigan prosecutor dismisses over 1,600 of Gov. Whitmer's COVID violations ruled unconstitutional

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  1. Darth Gravus

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    The first two sentences are just lies and the 3rd one misses the point of the mask.
     
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    You're misinformed or simply uninformed. All three sentences are true and accurate. Some of us have been paying attention for the last year, some have not. :peace:
     
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    Then perhaps you should start paying attention. Or more likely you need to find better sources and quit relying on politicians for your science.

    My wife is a Critical Care Nurse who has been dealing with COVID patients for the last year. I can promise you it has a far higher morbidity than the flu virus. After 10 years of dealing with such patients my wife said she has never seen any patients deteriorate as fast as they do with COVID. COVID was the first thing that scared her as a nurse as she watched patients go from a low amount of canula oxygen to full vents in less than 12 hours.

    A study done in France found that the in-hospital mortality was ten-times higher for COVID-19 than for the flu.

    This is why there are as many deaths from COVID in one year in the US as there typically flu deaths worldwide in a year.
     
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    LOL, I do not rely on politicians for anything at all except as a source of ridicule and perverse humor.

    Kudos and thanks to your wife. I have friends in the business too, and you should hear the stories they tell OFF THE RECORD. They have a job to keep and families to support, so they **** and do what they must do in public.

    The stories they tell about pressure to code as Covid have been told for a year in my case, but forget all that.

    If you are actually not aware of the huge manipulations during the last year, then you've not been paying attention.

    On the street, there are many people who've told the story of having signed up for testing, showed up for it but left because it took too much time, and then received positive results for a test they've never taken. And requests from the testing company for testimony regarding how "horrible" the covid was when they didn't even happen.

    In Orlando, even a VA facility was caught red-handed inflating cases and deaths. A young motorcycle accident fatality was included as a covid death.

    If you're not aware of those shenanigans, and many more, during this last year, maybe you were deployed or something, but you're grossly unaware of events.
     
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    It is as if you are implying my wife has been lying to me over the past year, but I will just blame that on your ignorance and biases.

    She has been under no pressure at all, but when you are in a negative pressure area for 12 hours with nothing but COVID patients there cannot be no false coding as you imply.

    As for the rest of your rantings, a mistaken coding is not a sign of some systematic effort to fool the public ,this sort of thing happens all the time, nurses are only human after all and most are way overworked and do their charting when they can.

    Your low opinion of people in the medical field is not warranted in my personal opinion. But I am sure you have some witty comeback to tell me why I am wrong.
     
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    I did not imply your wife was lying to you, and we both know it. You have a vivid imagination, hopefully not tinged with paranoia.

    It wasn't mistaken coding sir, it was instructions from superiors to include covid coding at every opportunity.

    It's about $ Marine, nothing more. By way of the CARES Act did the US Treasury get plundered.

    My father was a doctor, so put your paranoid delusions about my motives where the sun don't shine.
     
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    Hopefully one lesson we take away is that when we let abstract notions of values take precedent over dealing with a real-life situation, we only shoot ourselves in the face. The petty arguments made against mask and health mandates related to the coronavirus showed us that some people don't actually value society or the people who live here, they only value themselves and what personally affects them. Their arguments will always shift, because they are selfish and entirely based on the effect on the themselves only.
     
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    You have a very bad habit of accusing others with the very things you do with each post.

    You rant about my paranoid delusions, yet you think the world's medical/scientific field are all in on some big scam to "plunder the US Treasury". Were you both without a sense of irony?
     
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    The CARES Act is very real, even though you seem ignorant of its existence. There is nothing paranoid about discussing reality.

    You quickly suggest I have a low opinion of the medical profession, even though my father was a doctor and my sister is a nurse and many other friends are in the medical profession. You don't know that when I was in Uncle Sam's Army in Southeast Asia I was in the Medical Service Corps.

    We're still getting to know each other, but you come across as one of those who puts his mouth in gear before he puts his brain in gear.

    Clearly you're thoroughly indoctrinated if a year later you still buy into the Official Covid Narrative advanced by known liars and bureaucrats with vested interests. Barnum might have been wrong--there are 2 suckers born every minute.
     
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    Trust the experts. ;-)

     
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    Yes, it is real. What is not real is your paranoid delusion that the entire world's medical/scientific field all came together to put forth scam on the American people to get the bill passed.
    You are the one that has accused them of at best staying silent during the biggest scam in the history of the world, and implying that many of them are involved in making the scam happen.

    I am a very blunt person, I do not mince words. I say what I think. If you cannot handle that, I really do not give a ****.

    I base my view of COIVD on the information I receive from my wife and her fellow medical field professionals. Either they are wrong or you are, guess which one I am going with?

    I have faith that you will understand why I will choose to believe my wife and not some stranger on the internet.
     
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    I do. I trust my wife, the RN dealing with COVID patients for the past year.
     
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    Does she trust the experts? ;-)

     
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    She trust her eyes, her knowledge and her experience as well as all of those things of her fellow medical professionals.
     
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    You trust your wife, and that's fine by me. Bravo.

    I trust my friends in the industry, ESPECIALLY when they make comments in private. I honor their privacy and I respect they need to keep a job. I get it. No problem.

    But what they say about pressure to code Covid fits in perfectly with all the other facts and data gathered during these last 12 months.

    Plandemic is the best descriptor of what we're going through. It's not about public health, it's about plundering the Treasury.

    If you cannot understand that, you are sure as hell not the only one, you're typically oblivious to what's going on around you.
     
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    And then you accuse me of paranoid delusions, you truly were born without a sense of irony.

    So, tell me how did they get the MLB/NBA/NCAA/NFL to go along with it all and lose billions upon billions of dollars?

    And tell me how they got the rest of the world to go along with this plan to raid the US Treasury even though it does not help any of their countries?
     
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    Not sure I would trust anyone that openly admitted to helping to perpetuate the largest scam in the history of the world.

    That sort of person does not seem very trustworthy at all.
     
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    'Abstract notions of values'? This country really has become pathetic. Our values, are the only thing that makes us a country. Without those values, I might as well live in any other country because there's discernibly no difference.
     
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    HOW IT STARTED: Whitmer to Michigan: Stay Home and Shut Up.

    —Debra Saunders, Real Clear Politics, April 19th, 2020.

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    How it’s going: Michigan’s Virus Cases Are Out of Control, Putting Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in a Bind.

    —The New York Times, today.

    Perhaps try not locking up COVID-inflicted old people in nursing homes?
    To hear the ashats at the New York Times tell it, the Michigan resident that is the real victim of Gov. Whitmer’s disastrous policy choices is Gov. Whitmer, not the needless dead.
     

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