Michigan Secretary of State say armed protesters gathered outside her home

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-secretary-state-says-armed-104332751.html
    https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-secretary-state-says-armed-035400636.html



    Armed protesters chanting "bogus " claims about about electoral fraud. They had a right to be armed no question there. They had a right to gather also. Did they have a right to protest, of course.Did they have a right to threaten theMichgan Sec of State , of course not. These so called people shouted obsentities towards her home.
    All of their accusations aboutva fraudulent or stolen election have been debunked a million times.
    I have some questions to ask of our membership.
    1- What motivates "people" such as these to behave like uncontrolled Zbandkts
    2- Who is Inspiring these "people" to behave like Political bandits
    3- Isn't high time for all the Congress people to admit that Biden won and tell these "people who behave like this just stop these false claims of fraud?
    4- Isn't it time that Trump admits that he lost and that he has no legitimate claim to overturn the 2020 presidential election.
    5- is 't it time for the majority of Trump supporters who I am sure are basically good people to tell the small segment of trouble makers that they need to stop this protesting and accept that Biden won?

    I hate to be graphic and gave to describe this smaller subgroup of Trumpistas as poljitical criminals but what else can you call those who spread lies, falsely claim that Trump won , harass legally elected officials, and yes behave like Sciest. You sure as hell cannot call them patriots because patriots would not support and vote for a guy who undermines the Cinstitution.
     
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    Somebody get hurt, and they will say it wasn't Trump's fault. But it IS Trump's fault!

    They'll say it was somebody who just happened to be there. Who had nothing to do with Trump. Or that Trump didn't tell them to hurt anybody.

    Make no mistake about it. It's Trump's fault!
     
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    I suppose it would be different if the president undermined the constitution in a way you agree with. Was there any video of the threats?
     
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    So your saying he IS undermining the constitution.......

    Good to know
     
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    Im am saying that politicians in both parties are working hard to erode liberty and secure power. The same people that cheer for it while it is being used against others turn around and complain when their rights are taken. Democrats pointing fingers at Trumps abuse of power are not pointing with clean hands. I live in Los Angeles and the constitution is just a piece of paper here.
     
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    Can you be more specific about that? What exactly are politicians doing to erode liberty/secure power?...
     
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    Oh me me.... I want to answer

    Election fraud.....that's what motivates them
     
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    Thank goodness they didn't kneel in the street, or the authori-tays would have gassed and shot at them.
     
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    Why would you suppose something as rediculous as me or any truly patriotic American being in favor of any POTUS undermining our Constitution! That is such an absurd supposition.
    Is there a video? There is no video of votes being changed to Biden or Trump votes being deleted or Trump votes being thrown in a river or Trump votes being burned or North Korean ships delivering "Biden Ballots but you seem to go merrily along with those phony baloney stories bull Schiest stories as if was written in the Holy Bible.
     
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    Thank you for talking sense and using your astute mature logic.
     
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    Open your eyes, unclog your ears, and make your mind receptive to truth and you will know.
     
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    Heres one example from where I live.

    Second amendment rights are not existent in Los Angeles. Open carry is illegal and no CCWs are issued to ordinary citizens. Only cops, judges and criminals carry guns here.
     
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    fun fact: there is no state law banning open carry of long guns in New York State.

    probably an oversight rather than intentional.
     
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    But but but... how will they defend against the government tanks and bombers???? :eyepopping:
     
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    The only fraud related to the election are the lies that Donnie has been making about so called election fraud.
     
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    Curious, do you think people in prison have a right to carry? Released felons? Mentally ill? Children?
     
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    Are you saying that because of our military's tremendous success fighting enemies hiding among friendlies in Vietnam and the Middle East?
     
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    Dumb comparison. You are comparing operations where we were hamstrung by avoiding civilian casualties with the bizarre fantasy of our government actually targeting civilians.
     
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    Perhaps their rights should end where the rights of others begin!

    Released felons that committed violent crime, rape, etc, no. You know how I feel about laws that make people felons even when there is no victim.

    Mentally ill? It depends on the illness. My father in law served in Vietnam and suffered from PTSD. He has never been violent, but has what is considered a mental illness. Should he have his rights taken away?

    Many children live on a ranch/farm and have access to firearms.
     
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    The Constitution does not prohibit children, the mentally ill, the feeble minded, released or incarcerated felons , Blacks , drug dealers or Slaves from having the right to carry.

    How are any of our members here who claim go be Constitutionalist textualists believe that felons, children, or the mentally ill or otherwise mentally deranged should have the right to carry.
     
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    Hope we see more protest
     
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    So dumb that you made my point for me.
     
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    Haha...sure, pal. Whatever you need to say to soothe yourself. Better grab Cletus and prepare for the guerilla warfare :deadhorse:
     
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    It was your example, not mine. When you are done arguing with yourself, you can always reply to something I actually said. Did you use that example to justify taking second amendment rights away from regular citizens?
     
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    I view PTSD as a mental condition not a mental illness. PTSD symptoms may include flashbacks, extreme anxiety, nightmares, uncontrollable thoughts about the traumatic event or events. People who have PTSD may very well also gave some form of mental illness. Nightmares and anxiety even extreme anziety are not symptoms of mental illness.
     

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