Mick Mulvaney publicly confirms Trump held up Ukraine aid for political gain

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To shorten that to Trump-speak for deplorables....Yes Quid Pro Quo.... Yes Extortion... Yes Impeachable
     
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    Mulvaney said nothing about the Bidens, there is an ongoing Barr/Durham investigation that Ukraine is involved up to its ears. Duh
     
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    Trump never, "requested campaign assistance from a foreign government in the form of an investigation against a domestic political opponent".

    That is Leftwing propaganda created by liars for "Useful Idiots" to take in and repeat.
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then I'm guessing Trump is really ticked at himself for releasing the phone call rough notes right about now....

    And how do you know about the status of Barr/Durham investigation anyway?? Somebody leaking in this administration???

    :roflol::roflol:

    It would only be news if somebody wasn't...
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Somebody needs to read his phone call transcript again (or for the first time)....
     
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    That is an absolutely accurate description of what he did.
     
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    Their collusion hysteria, which the ignoramuses attached to absolutely every legitimate and legal secret meeting is turning into this QPQ hysteria which they now try to slap on every perfectly legitimate transaction, political or business condition or precondition .

    They really never learn, even from all that egg on their face lol
     
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    Go ahead... share it with the world. Where in the transcript did he ask for a favor to investigate the Bidens? It never happened. The favor was paragraphs prior regarding the 2016 Election corruption that the Ukraine partook to help out Hillary Clinton which has been confirmed.

    You are spouting Leftwing propaganda about something that NEVER HAPPENED. You don't get to infer meaning, because it fits your desired narrative. That is intellectually dishonest.
     
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    Total BS I listened to the press conference he specifically said that’s not the case at all.

    It was held up for three reasons 1) corruption issues there they wanted them to address 2) mainly they did an analysis of how much our European allies were giving 3) they were asked to cooperate with on going criminal probes related to the 2016 election (that was publicly known). At no time were funds held up if 3 wasn’t done, they were released and Ukraine didn’t even know they were delayed mainly to the data collection done for 2
     
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    It's a bad joke on America by the Leftists and their MSM. They think they get to infer meaning. It doesn't work that way. They don't get to project their own party's misdeeds and have it stick. They are just running face first into the next propaganda wall their masters have created for them. They must love looking stupid.
     
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    Also interesting the repetitive nature of the trumpian play book

    first call it fake news
    Then trash who ever is presenting the evidence
    Say these are lies
    Say the accusations are unproven
    Say it is part of an ongoing witch hunt
    Say that even if it were true, it is not criminal
    Say that of course it is true.,.. after all, it is perfectly normal
    This is old news
    Nothing wrong could have happened because there was no conviction
     
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    First off, an investigation into the conspiracy that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election to help Hillary Clinton is still an investigation against a domestic political opponent and campaign assistance.

    Second, Trump's request to investigate Biden was a continuation of his request for a favor. The fact that the Ukrainian President said something in between those requests does not mean that Trump wasn't requesting an investigation into the Bidens as a favor.
     
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    Yep, you can't make this up. A perfectly normal and legal "cut that corruption crap and cooperate with DOJ investigation of election meddling" precondition to disbursing half a billion dollars is suddenly an impeachable QTQ high crime and misdemeanor.

    Libs...What will they think of next? Lol
     
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    No, it was part of the deal
     
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    Wow.....

    You............................................................................ THE LOOP

    You are out of it

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    And this isn't even the verbatim transaction, which I imagine is worse...

    The rest of us are WAY past this part...
     
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    I’m still holding out hope that republican would rather have someone else on the ticket in 2020
     
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    "Total BS."

    Riiiight. *Wink*
     
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    Durham, he’s in charge of all investigations republicans want to pretend are happening.
    He’s also looking for the birth certificate, the killer of Dnc staffer, uranium one....you name it!
     
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    Sorry boys and girls. Go back and read the transcript. He didn't say "you do this or we won't do that"

    He basically said "we do alot for you guys, btw, what's up with that Biden thing"

    Here in the united states, being proven guilty requires more than ones PERCEPTION of a conversation. You guys crack me up. All this crying over Ukraine and you guys still don't have a political message except for "OWANGE man is teh bad"
     
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    So, what EXACTLY did the Ukrainians do or say that got their aid released on 9/11?? I never saw anything from them publicly on either topic....
     
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    Why was the aid held up and why was it finally released?
     
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    Oh, Obama's Iran deal was based on we won't return your money unless you accept our conditions QPQ. Figures. Lol
     
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    This is akin to arguing that a guy who points a gun at you and demands your money is not guilty because he never said, "this is a robbery."

    Also, the topic of this thread is Mulvaney admitting that a Quid Pro Quo took place.
     
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    Correct... the stick wasn't in the call... the stick came from Giuliani and the State Department guys on the WH meeting.... And the quiet stick of withholding their aid without even making that an open threat... Actually pretty clever for dumbasses, but it doesn't change the facts...

    P.S. There was no "Biden thing" in the Ukraine at the time of the call... The "Biden thing" was being pushed by a worse lawyer than Michael Cohen...
     
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    Lol, libs are whining now that Quo is missing in their own Quid Pro Quo hoax.

    You really can't make this up lol
     

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