Mick Mulvaney publicly confirms Trump held up Ukraine aid for political gain

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    QPQs are common and fine, so why have you and trump been denying there was one?
    A: because you know it’s not and will just parrot whatever BS they say today.
    Tomorrow when they deny it again, you’ll deny it also lol
     
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    Question: Do you have any proof that the money you are referencing was not the result of a WTO ruling and wholly unrelated to the Iran Nuclear Deal?

    I expect a yes or no answer.
     
  3. Egoboy

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    Why did the WH release the aid?? Mulvaney said it was dependent on some Ukraine investigation, or declaration they would do one..

    Did I miss that part? Can you point me to it?
     
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  4. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's right, didn't Sondland famously text No Quid Pro Quo?? And he got that from Trump??

    Wonder how his day is going, BTW?? Hope Matt Gaetz tried to sneak in again, disguised as a human being...

    These people are hilarious.... Can you imagine some of them in front of a good questioner in an open impeachment hearing??
     
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    Two possibilities,

    1. Ukraine met the preconditions
    2. The administration decided to drop the preconditions

    Duh, simple, isn't it... and shockingly neither of these two scenarios amount to jaywalking, let alone high crimes and misdemeanors... they are absolutely perfectly legal, legitimate and normal. Jeez
     
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    Nothing happened



    Ok it happened



    The whistleblower is lying



    Here’s a “transcript”



    Uh-oh, you think that’s impeachable?



    But it’s not what the whistleblower said!



    Ok, fine, it’s exactly what the whistleblower said



    But no quid pro quo!



    Ok there was a quid pro quo



    Get over it
     
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  7. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    So if the house talks to Durham and he says his invesigation doesn’t need anything from Ukraine, you’ll support impeachment?
     
  8. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh yeah, it's certainly simple... on that we can agree...

    The answer is #2... As soon as word got out about the House investigation into the phone call, they dropped it like Fat Man and Little Boy (which interestingly, BOTH describe Trump)...

    Too late...
     
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    Joe and Hunter are not Trump's "domestic political opponents."

    And freezing military aid had nothing to do with Trump asking Ukraine to re-open investigation into corruption.
     
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    Huh, on what grounds?

    Back to you though, if there is an ongoing DOJ investigation involving Ukraine, will you post 10 sincerely pro-Trump messages daily on this board until the 2020 election?
     
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    You’re claim is too vague. We know there is, trumps pals just got arrested. But it’s not server related.
     
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    Hilarious that you think thus is a defense.
     
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    How long before dear old mick is fired?
     
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    Yes, but I think his ultimate goal was to try and say that the DNC server was the "more important" Ukrainian deliverable, instead of a Biden deliverable...Most Americans couldn't give 2 craps about the DNC server, even if they believed Ukraine has anything to do with it, but most of them will get the Biden angle...

    Fortunately, Trump mentions both of them in the call, so both are in play...
     
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    Where's the QPQ? I don't see it. In fact, Presidency Zelensky has already stated publicly that he never knew about the aid being frozen during the call and he never felt pressure during the call.

    SO, WHERE'S THE DAMN QPQ?????
     
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    Why should he be fired?
     
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    Vague? Mulvaney was talking about an ongoing DOJ investigation that Trump wanted Ukraine to cooperate with. If there is any such investigation at all, Trump is absolutely 100% innocent and his demands as a precondition to getting aid is 100% legal, legitimate and in fact necessary.
     
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    More nothingburger.
     
  19. Egoboy

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    It's not in the call.... But you should ask Mulvaney, since he seems to know...
     
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    LOL... You prove there is (or was) an investigation into Hunter Biden by the US DOJ on July 25th, hit me up and we can talk some more...
     
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    Of course.
    First it didn’t happen
    Now it did but it’s fine.

    this is how every trump scandal unfolds. Denial, followed by admission and justification
     
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    That's correct...it wasn't about the Biden's it was about working with an ongoing investigation related to campaign interance in the 2016 election.

    As well as the other two things.

    What's the issue?
     
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    A reporter did ask Mulvaney who patiently explained to the dummy that it is absolutely routine in politics (much like elsewhere for that matter), that everyone sets conditions and preconditions, as long as they're legal, which Trump's unquestionably were. Duh
     
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    DOJ official: Mulvaney rationale for withholding Ukraine aid is "news to us"
    2:53 p.m.: A senior Justice Department official said the department was not aware of any connection between aid to Ukraine and the department's investigation into the origins of the 2016 counterintelligence probe.
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL.. of course it's news to them, as they're making stuff up as they go along and it's hard to keep everybody on the same page...
     
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