Microsoft suspends sales of products and services in Russia

Russkis shut off FB??....no more trolls then?....they'll be out of a job...fantastic!

 

Well...if you move to Germany....Microsoft is operating there !

 

I do not know if that is true; certainly not in all cases. For example, once BP gives up its one-fifth stake in its Russian Oil company-- I guess they need wait until Russia reopens its stock market-- & takes about a $25 billion loss, it's far from assured that they would turn around & come right back. If we were to have at least the appearance of peace in Ukraine, your forecast would ring truer. But Russia will be engaged with constant insurrection, trying to turn the vast Ukraine into another Gaza Strip. It will stay in the news for some time. I don't think the business creep back, would begin for at least a year or two, if ever.

This is under the assumption of what seems the most likely course of events: that Putin remains committed to his single- minded goal, of conquest/regime change, until it is accomplished. I had said, a few days ago, that he could have avoided making Russia a pariah, in the long term, and get relief from sanctions very quickly, as long as he reversed course, in the next few days, which I saw no signs that he would do. But now, he is doing lasting damage to Russia's brand, and things are likely to get worse.

 

I doubt we know what "after" looks like.

The difference between Russia backing out or living with tiny gains could be quite different from having all Ukraine living under Russian domination and pleading for help.

 

Thankfully the Russian-Chinese relationship is by no means all smooth sailing and we have plenty of opportunities to drive a wedge there.

 

Russia isn't looking for "regime change" in Ukraine....that doesn't work anymore in Ukraine and been proven....Ukranians won't tolerate a puppet.

More like total annexation.

 

There's no "after" here....Putler can't ...back out....call off....or whatever now....it's total destruction forward....or he's dead.

 

Agreed. This isn't just a matter of convenience. Even if they can go "old school" for a bit, every single customer and client that relies on those products will be forced into adjusting also. It's not just impacting Russia directly.

Back in college, I worked for a US corporation with a global presence. We all used computers. My boss' boss' secretary was about thirty years older than the rest of us and she had a typewriter on her desk next to her computer which she never turned on. She had been working for that guy for decades and he didn't push her to join the computer age because he was old school too.

A few months after I got hired, her boss got tapped for a promotion to the Executive Suites and he told her that he wasn't taking her with him. It was around Christmas time and she bought him and his wife some expensive gifts, wrote him all kinds of letters and sat in his office crying constantly begging him to take her to his new position. I'm not sure if it was just an "out" for him since she didn't have a nice personality or he was nudged to ditch her because she just refused to learn to use her computer and had the nerve to be a witch on top of it.

Disclaimer: I am vehemently opposed to the idea that only "young" people can handle learning curves and replacing older, more skilled people just to lower salary budgets isn't right but that was NOT the issue. The whole company (and industry) was moving right past her and she refused to make the effort even when the company was willing to pay for her to be trained on the new systems.

 

Ahahaha ..... "The Russian authorities, with the participation of the Ministry of Digital Development, are exploring the possibility of legalizing pirated software in the country. This means that administrative or criminal liability will not be threatened for its use. This idea is considered as a measure to support Russians on the basis of exodus from the country of developers programs popular in Russia."
And who will be worse off?

Russians will stop paying for popular programs, and Russian software developers, relying on the developments of Western companies, will be able to at least create similar software and even surpass Western counterparts.
Remember, for example, the incident with the creation of a nuclear bomb. The Russians, relying on Western developments, not only caught up, but also surpassed.

 

By this time next year....possibly earlier, most Russkis will be reading & writing next to a coal oil lamp....and using outhouses with Pravda back issues as TP. Just like 1920 again.

Botox Julio wanted the good Ole days returned....he got his wish.

 

It’s obvious that you don’t know what SaaS is.

 

Legalizing pirated software? That figures. Why innovate when you can just steal, right? Here I thought you might develop something to replace that software and not simply try to legalize theft of it.

Typical Commies.

 

Pirated software is good only on very old systems. Average Russian can get away with watching gay porn on pirated Windows, but a business won’t be able to use an SQL server, Sharepoint, or MS Office 365.

 

Well, right. There are alternatives to a lot of Microsoft's software that they might try using and even further developing. Linux would be a biggie and is something they could make (and as far as I know, already have made) native to their Elbrus platform, for instance, and Linux also has database software and such available. If they're content to be cut off from most of the world over Putin's fascist adventure in Ukraine, that is the sort of thing they will need to look at long term. Pirating Windows and other standalone software packages won't get them too far.

 

Much easier said, than done. I'm not saying that you couldn't be right; Putin is not exactly acting rationally. So, on that possibility, how many Russian troops would you think Russia might leave, permanently, in Ukraine? I think it would need be more than the U.S. presence, at the DMZ, in South Korea.

 

Oh...a lot more....who knows what number it could be....200K+ could be a start.

 

At the rate Ukraine is receiving gear and training volunteers, Russia is going to need a million occupiers to have a prayer.

 

For sure....I still find it amusing that some "agents" here were claiming that the Eastern areas would warmly welcome the occupiers....yes, they welcomed with Javelins and Stingers., and YT videos of 19 yr old conscripts as POWs calling their mothers.

As for aid....yes, lots coming in.

I'm told that there's a secret ,undisclosed area in Poland not far from Ukraine border with an airfield that can handle 20 trips daily or more....and has been. And apparently US General Mark Milley has visited it with a few other top brass....so one can only imagine what has been delivered?

 

And a bunch of MiG-29s will apparently be delivered soon also. Soon Ukraine will be ready to establish a no-fly zone all on its own.

 

There are enough servers in Russia to do without cloud services. Don't worry about the Russians. They will be all right.

 

Steal - this is when the US authorities block Russian accounts.
What Russia is doing is called a war trophy.

 

The whole Russian Army has only 850,000 soldiers. Just off the top of my head, I'd been thinking about a tenth of that, or about 45% of the number currently in Ukraine. Even that would be a very substantial, long- term obligation. But we seem to have gotten away from the thread's Microsoft focus, so should probably just leave the question, here.

 

Pirated software isn't much of a war trophy.

 

It’s hilarious how little you understand about how SaaS works.