Mifepristone & Misoprostol - Punishing women for inducing abortion.

http://www.snopes.com/margaret-sanger-weeds/

 

There you go making up stuff and claiming someone said it, then arguing with yourself.

Nobody ever said all miscarriages should be investigated, that is a brainless thing abortion proponents like to throw around.
If there is evidence of an abortion taking place, then it should be investigated.

 

It actually is realistic and it is nonsensical to all ow this one wanton homicide with no oversight, when there is no other instance in our body of law where homicide is treated so flippantly.

 

Your lack of knowledge about the effects of miscarriage being the same as an abortion is obvious.


WHAT "evidence" would there be of an abortion?

LIST the "evidence" that YOU CLAIM would exist.


and, I didn't argue with myself , I asked you questions which YOU can't, as usual, answer.

 

Your lack of understanding that abortion is an intentional wanton killing of a child in utero, and a miscarriage is an accidental death is sad.
You understand that a naturally caused heart attack isn't a murder, ....or do you?

 

Ducking from answering those inconvenient questions as usual. The EFFECTS of an abortion and a miscarriage are identical...


WHAT "evidence" would there be of an abortion?



YOU CLAIMED there was evidence of abortion yet YOU CAN'T list any....

 

So are the effects of a heart attack and a bullet through the heart. But you don't seem to understand that.
Knowledge of the woman visiting a known abortion hit man ( so called "doctor"), for one.

Face it, you are just flailing around because you have nothing to justify these homicides you are all in support of women committing.

 

WHAT "evidence" would there be of an abortion?



YOU CLAIMED there was evidence of abortion yet YOU CAN'T list any....


If there was a "known" person performing the abortions wouldn't the police arrest that person before they did more abortions? Yes, they would.

EVEN IF the woman VISITED a person who was known to give abortions WHERE is the EVIDENCE that she had an abortion?

A woman is free to visit whomever she likes and if she just had a miscarriage she is STILL free to visit other people.....

 

No longer a pregnancy, visited a known abortion hit man, there may be medical indications as well. I am not a doctor. But I know allowing homicide at will isn't sensible or logical.

 

Abortion is not homicide, but you know that.

 

Doctors who perform abortions are not "so called", they ARE doctors - they have the appropriate degree(s) and are licensed by their state/province.

Abortion is not homicide, but you know that.

 

I have already proven that incorrect definitively. Even federal law disagrees with you Zeffy.


Read the UVVA, a 2004 Federal Law!


118 STAT. 568 PUBLIC LAW 108–212—APR. 1, 2004
Apr. 1, 2004
[H.R. 1997]
Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004.
18 USC 1841 note.
To amend title 18, United States Code, and the Uniform Code of Military Justice to protect unborn children from assault and murder, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004’’ or ‘‘Laci and Conner’s Law’’.
SEC. 2. PROTECTION OF UNBORN CHILDREN.
(a) IN GENERAL.—Title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after chapter 90 the following:
‘‘CHAPTER 90A—PROTECTION OF UNBORN CHILDREN
‘‘Sec.
‘‘1841. Protection of unborn children.
‘‘§ 1841. Protection of unborn children
‘‘(a)(1) Whoever engages in conduct that violates any of the provisions of law listed in subsection (b) and thereby causes the death of, or bodily injury (as defined in section 1365) to, a child, who is in utero at the time the conduct takes place, is guilty of a separate offense under this section.
‘‘(2)(A) Except as otherwise provided in this paragraph, the punishment for that separate offense is the same as the punishment provided under Federal law for that conduct had that injury or death occurred to the unborn child’s mother.
‘‘(B) An offense under this section does not require proof that— ‘‘(i) the person engaging in the conduct had knowledge or should have had knowledge that the victim of the underlying
offense was pregnant; or
‘‘(ii) the defendant intended to cause the death of, or bodily
injury to, the unborn child.
‘‘(C) If the person engaging in the conduct thereby intentionally kills or attempts to kill the unborn child, that person shall instead of being punished under subparagraph (A), be punished as provided under sections 1111, 1112, and 1113 of this title for intentionally killing or attempting to kill a human being.
‘‘(D) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the death penalty shall not be imposed for an offense under this section. ‘‘(b) The provisions referred to in subsection (a) are the fol-
lowing:
‘‘(1) Sections 36, 37, 43, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 229,
242, 245, 247, 248, 351, 831, 844(d), (f), (h)(1), and (i), 924(j),
Public Law 108–212 108th Congress
An Act
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PUBLIC LAW 108–212—APR. 1, 2004 118 STAT. 569
930, 1111, 1112, 1113, 1114, 1116, 1118, 1119, 1120, 1121, 1153(a), 1201(a), 1203, 1365(a), 1501, 1503, 1505, 1512, 1513, 1751, 1864, 1951, 1952 (a)(1)(B), (a)(2)(B), and (a)(3)(B), 1958, 1959, 1992, 2113, 2114, 2116, 2118, 2119, 2191, 2231, 2241(a), 2245, 2261, 2261A, 2280, 2281, 2332, 2332a, 2332b, 2340A, and 2441 of this title.
‘‘(2) Section 408(e) of the Controlled Substances Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 848(e)).
‘‘(3) Section 202 of the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 (42 U.S.C. 2283).
‘‘(c) Nothing in this section shall be construed to permit the prosecution—
‘‘(1) of any person for conduct relating to an abortion for which the consent of the pregnant woman, or a person author- ized by law to act on her behalf, has been obtained or for which such consent is implied by law;
‘‘(2) of any person for any medical treatment of the pregnant woman or her unborn child; or
‘‘(3) of any woman with respect to her unborn child.
‘‘(d) As used in this section, the term ‘unborn child’ means a child in utero, and the term ‘child in utero’ or ‘child, who is in utero’ means a member of the species homo sapiens, at any
stage of development, who is carried in the womb.’’.
(b) CLERICAL AMENDMENT.—The table of chapters for part I
of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after the item relating to chapter 90 the following new item:
‘‘90A. Protection of unborn children .............................................................. 1841’’. SEC. 3. MILITARY JUSTICE SYSTEM.
(a) PROTECTION OF UNBORN CHILDREN.—Subchapter X of chapter 47 of title 10, United States Code (the Uniform Code of Military Justice), is amended by inserting after section 919 (article 119) the following new section:
‘‘§ 919a. Art. 119a. Death or injury of an unborn child
‘‘(a)(1) Any person subject to this chapter who engages in con- duct that violates any of the provisions of law listed in subsection (b) and thereby causes the death of, or bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 of title 1 to, a child, who is in utero at the time the conduct takes place, is guilty of a separate offense under this section and shall, upon conviction, be punished by such punish- ment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct, which shall be consistent with the punishments prescribed by the President for that conduct had that injury or death occurred to the unborn child’s mother.
‘‘(2) An offense under this section does not require proof that— ‘‘(i) the person engaging in the conduct had knowledge or should have had knowledge that the victim of the underlying
offense was pregnant; or
‘‘(ii) the accused intended to cause the death of, or bodily
injury to, the unborn child.
‘‘(3) If the person engaging in the conduct thereby intentionally kills or attempts to kill the unborn child, that person shall, instead of being punished under paragraph (1), be punished as provided under sections 880, 918, and 919(a) of this title (articles 80, 118, and 119(a)) for intentionally killing or attempting to kill a human being.
118 STAT. 570 PUBLIC LAW 108–212—APR. 1, 2004
‘‘(4) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the death penalty shall not be imposed for an offense under this section. ‘‘(b) The provisions referred to in subsection (a) are sections 918, 919(a), 919(b)(2), 920(a), 922, 924, 926, and 928 of this title (articles 118, 119(a), 119(b)(2), 120(a), 122, 124, 126, and 12. ‘‘(c) Nothing in this section shall be construed to permit the
prosecution—
‘‘(1) of any person for conduct relating to an abortion for
which the consent of the pregnant woman, or a person author- ized by law to act on her behalf, has been obtained or for which such consent is implied by law;
‘‘(2) of any person for any medical treatment of the pregnant woman or her unborn child; or
‘‘(3) of any woman with respect to her unborn child.
‘‘(d) In this section, the term ‘unborn child’ means a child in utero, and the term ‘child in utero’ or ‘child, who is in utero’ means a member of the species homo sapiens, at any stage of
development, who is carried in the womb.’’.
(b) CLERICAL AMENDMENT.—The table of sections at the begin-
ning of such subchapter is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 919 the following new item:
‘‘919a. 119a. Death or injury of an unborn child.’’. Approved April 1, 2004.
LEGISLATIVE HISTORY—H.R. 1997 (S. 1019):
HOUSE REPORTS: No. 108–420, Pt. 1 (Comm. on the Judiciary). CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, Vol. 150 (2004):
Feb. 26, considered and passed House.
Mar. 25, considered and passed Senate.
WEEKLY COMPILATION OF PRESIDENTIAL DOCUMENTS, Vol. 40 (2004):
Apr. 1, Presidential remarks.
Æ

So if a child in utero at any stage of development is a human being, as it CLEARLY says here, any killing of that child by another person is a HOMICIDE BY DEFINITION!


BOOM!

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They are not acting as doctors when they do abortions, unless the mother is in imminent danger of serious injury or death. Doctors heal and save lives, when they are solely killing a life, they are no longer acting in the capacity of a medical doctor. They are essentially executioners at that point.

 

What does "no longer a pregnancy" mean? WHO would know there was a pregnancy?

Did you think the second a woman became pregnant she had a huge belly!!!!


WHAT "medical indications" ??? LIST THEM.


WHAT "evidence" would there be of an abortion?



YOU CLAIMED there was evidence of abortion yet YOU CAN'T list any....


If there was a "known" person performing the abortions wouldn't the police arrest that person before they did more abortions? Yes, they would.

EVEN IF the woman VISITED a person who was known to give abortions WHERE is the EVIDENCE that she had an abortion?

A woman is free to visit whomever she likes and if she just had a miscarriage she is STILL free to visit other people.....

 

Family members, her regular doctor. You seem to be hanging your hat on the nonsensical notion that all abortions would be prosecuted or the law would be useless. Well all murders currently are not solved and prosecuted , so should be abandon all homicide laws?

 

Very efficient executioners....or they did not do the job right

 

Here we go again.....WHAT family members would turn in a member of their own family? WHO would? Her husband? Kids? Her mother or father?....they would have to be the lowest filthiest trash ever to do that.


HOW would her regular doctor know she had an abortion? Maybe she'll have it BEFORE she goes to a doctor....


WHAT "medical indications" ??? LIST THEM.


WHAT "evidence" would there be of an abortion?



YOU CLAIMED there was evidence of abortion yet YOU CAN'T list any....




YOU: """Well all murders currently are not solved and prosecuted """


...and gee whiz, they even have a BODY...and a weapon, a cause of death, and forensic evidence and fingerprints....NONE of which you have in an abortion .....

 

Incorrect. Your quotes say nothing about abortion being homicide. Proof that it is not in my country:


Homicide

222 (1) A person commits homicide when, directly or indirectly, by any means, he causes the death of a human being.

snip

When child becomes human being

223 (1) A child becomes a human being within the meaning of this Act when it has completely proceeded, in a living state, from the body of its mother, whether or not

(a) it has breathed;

(b) it has an independent circulation; or

(c) the navel string is severed.

Marginal note:Killing child

(2) A person commits homicide when he causes injury to a child before or during its birth as a result of which the child dies after becoming a human being.


http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-51.html#docCont

Yes, they are "acting as doctors". They are doing a medical procedure.

 

Ya, he posted that abortion isn't homicide but he didn't remember that....