Migrants arrive in D.C. on buses sent by GOP Texas Gov. Greg Abbott

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  1. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Only the liberal media is laughing. But as long as they are talking about it I think it works in favor of border states who have been burden with the Biden administration's lack of attention or ideas to solve the problem. Liberal may no longer be focusing on the border but they are talking about Abbot's provocative way of getting the much needed attention.
     
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    There are several different lines for immigration, just like there are different lines for getting into a movie. I can buy tickets online. AMC offers a "fast lane" for members. You can even use a kiosk instead of going to a teller

    Asylum seekers go into a different line than immigrants straight up seeking to move. Visa workers and students have a different line in immigration offices. Then of course you have marriage, family, etc. Kushner's family even sells green cards if you buy one of their condos.

    Asylum seekers are probably the most worthy of getting a faster line.
     
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    That's true to an extent, however the process of investigating the applicant, court dates and what not... isn't multiple lines. And as such PRIORITY should be given to those who respect our processes. Not those who skip it when we are (supposedly) saying "DON'T COME TO THE SOUTHER BORDER...IT'S A DANGEROUS TREK". You are sending the wrong message here to future migrants. Which is in turn what helps perpetuate a growing crisis at the southern border. And why DNC migration policies are unrealistic and suck ass.

    I have no respect for those who do so, knowing full well they decided to get indebted to the cartel by doing so. Or in the case of Trump, making a statement and using your children to do so. Like that crying girl's mom, where the father had no idea why she decided to suddenly dart to the border with their child...

    Something is going on at the Southern border. What were once families coming with children are now single men? And that flipped almost immediately after Biden took over.
     
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    You have no respect for people who are fleeing for their lives?
    I do think we should be taking the process to them. Open immigration shelters in the Southern Triangle so families can get shelter down there while getting processed. Tell the countries to donate land as a condition of their aid and have the Army construct small town sized shelters for housing and processing. Those that don't qualify could perhaps qualify for some other direct aid in the form of money or items instead of that aid filtering through corrupt local governments.

    Conspiracy theories are just that. You have nothing to back up your claim.
     
  5. Golem

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    There you have it folks. We don't NEED judges anymore....

    What nonsense! With those parameters high-school graduates with a few hours of training would have to give asylum to ALL applicants.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Cheaper to put them to work. That way they pay taxes, help increase GDP, and mitigate "The Great Resignation". Which is what undocumented immigrants actually do.

    That's what they're here for anyway.
     
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    What nonsense! NO! The law DOES NOT say that. You can swim in, come inside a container, parachute from a plane... How you come in makes no difference. You just have to be physically present.

    Read my sig!!!!!

    This is how one can tell posters who are here for a serious discussion from those who just come to repeat absurd talking points they heard on the wingnut media echo-chamber. But it does help us discern which posters deserve attention and which are just wasting our time.
     
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    I WHAT? Did that sound to you like I was praising Abbott?
     
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    Right now we have an influx of single men swarming the southern border. I somehow doubt very strongly that they are all "fleeing for their lives". Remain in Mexico was working. The wall...works. And it's not our job to take in all the world's problems. I'd much rather work with the Mexican government to help make Mexico more desirable and less of a **** show, rather then take in their problems.
     
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    That's disgusting! Please keep your personal problems to yourself. Stop projecting!
     
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    Nah! They're just laughing....
     
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    You keep repeating this "single men" mantra with zero evidence.
    Remain in Mexico was just more cruelty like the child separation policy by an admin who clearly wanted to end all immigration.
    If the "Wall" is working then what are you claiming is the problem? What little Trump added to the border fence is still there.
    Most of the asylum seekers are from the Southern Triangle. NAFTA and NAFTA 2.0 have been good for Mexico.
     
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    https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/the-facts-on-the-increase-in-illegal-immigration/

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    Wanna explain how suddenly we've gone from an influx of families to "single adults"?
     
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    Nice try trying to paint this as 'xenophobia', but the simple fact is a lot of people come here for govt freebies and a lot of people think theres better things to spend their taxes on. So sending em to where people want more of their taxes to be spent supporting economic migrants makes sense.

    Why does it sound like 'everybodys happy' except for you? Its not often a politician comes up with an idea that makes 'everybody happy.' Shouldn't Abbot be applauded for such a wildy popular move?
     
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    a few months ago,

    the people abbot sent to DC were walking across Mexico eating plain tortillas and relieving themselves behind a tree

    and they were one step away from being sent back to where they came from

    thanks to abbott,

    they rode an airconditioned bus, given a sandwich with meat on it and relieved themselves in clean facilities

    and they are NOW five steps away from being sent back to where they came from..

    thanks abbott
     
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    Yep. The word it out: "Head for Texas. They pay for a bus ride".
     
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    Your graph shows that single adults started rising in April 2020. Probably has something to do with closing the border to legal crossings due to Covid.

    It says nothing about "single men" to back up your claim. Just looks like people who were normally going back and forth were blocked and tried to cross anyway.
     
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    That sounds like a whole lot of denial.
     
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    Liberal media wasn't laughing after they helped elect Trump thanks to all their free and frequent coverage.
     
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    So what was your theory on the single adults increasing in April of 2020? Was it some Trump policy welcoming them?
     
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    From what I am reading it's mostly cartel and drug smugglers who have been caught and sent back to Mexico before.

    https://www.dailynews.com/2021/05/13/us-agents-encounter-more-single-adults-crossing-border/
    https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/news/facts-about-current-situation-border

    "The current rise began in April 2020, when President Trump instituted the practice of expelling all individuals encountered at the border under public health authority allegedly provided by Title 42 of the U.S. Code. Under Title 42, any single adult or family crossing the border from Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, or El Salvador were immediately turned around and sent back to Mexico. Unaccompanied children and most individuals from other countries were taken into custody, held for days or weeks, and then deported by plane back to their home country."

    Where's the women?
    https://nypost.com/2022/01/25/video...ants-released-for-transport-across-us-report/
    I'm sure they are all dreamers though.
     
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    the GOP's campaign rhetoric is part of the cause of the increase of immigrants at the southern border

    for 2 years one slogan of the GOP was "when Biden wins the borders will be open"

    the dems slogan was "the immigration system is broken lets fix it"

    but the dems message was drowned out by the GOP chanting "OPEN BORDERS"

    now abbott is welcoming them and sending them north and not south

    the GOP needs to make a decision

    send immigrants north or south??

    I am willing to bet EVERY immigrant will choose a free ride north
     
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    Why did Trump invite them?
     
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    Trump, unlike Biden was actively trying to discourage them. Wanting to build a wall...his policies of remain in Mexico and Title 42 say as much.. He was hard on those who were caught. I dunno what more you could ask of him.
     
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    Uh, no man, the president you elected and support is letting illegals into our country and the taxpayers are having to pay for them. Stay on topic.
     
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