Mike Pence's new neighbors put up LGBT pride flags in protest

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Think for myself, Dec 1, 2016.

  1. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Or homosexualty.

    Yes.

    Then why do you limit your argument for gay marriage to this amendment? Your hypocrisy is amusing but predictable.

    Thanks for admitting once again you can't.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Do try and keep up with what you are quoting. The wording you and your supporters cite has no limitation on any sexual preference whatsoever.

    Honesty from you. You want to call it a right then when your personal morality is threatened you want to limit it based on nothing but that morality. You have become what you claim to hate.

    lol that's the point I'm making.

    Now you are talking in circles once again. First you applaud the feds for stripping the rights of states to regulate marriage and now you chastise them for it? Which face am I talking to?

    Its already in the works in the system.

    Your argument is nothing but hypocrisy. You want the 14th amendment to define gay marriage admitting it never mentions marriage or homosexuality but when its pointed out any other sexual preference can use the exact same wording without any limitation you claim "Well there is more to law than just the 14th amendment."

    This rank hypocrisy is so typical of the far left. Never thinking things through then running when your hypocrisy is exposed.

    Once again you demonstrate your inability to read basic definitions from the dictionary. Sexual preference is defined as The preference one shows by having a sexual interest in members of the same, opposite, or either sex. That is any group defined by their sexual prefernce to a specific person or persons from heterosexuality to homosexuality to pedophilia to polygamy. You once again simply lack the courage to admit it or argue against it.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Then don't equate it to heterosexuality when there is no link.

    Sorry its not. You wanted to change the law. The burden is on you not me.

    Which is only being done by people on your side. No business is forcing you to accept their religion when you enter their place of business. Try again.

    Then prove it. I grow tired of your dishonesty. Cite the study they justified when they voted back in the 70s. Let's see it.

     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    I understand people like [MENTION=49589]Polydectes[/MENTION] get frustrated when their beliefs are challenged with actual facts and they are forced to look at the arguments they use to justify their cult like following but it doesn't change the reality that the arguments used for gay marriage by the courts can be used to justify any sexual preference because there is no limitation to age or number in Section 1 of the 14th amendment. This is why you dont bastardize an amendment and pretend it can fit your pet project. Its specifically why new amendments are created in the first place.

    No scientist is ever going to be stupid enough to claim the tongue, finger, mouth, or anal cavity is a sexual organ and since not a single biological fact supports your religious claim that homosexuality is genetic I understand why its frustrating for someone like you to be challenged to support your beliefs with actual facts behind them.
     
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    They are both natural expressions of sexual orientation.

    The laws were unjust, they specifically targeted gay people without rational, especially in military service and contractural agreements. Once enough people started asking why and all your side could come up with is "tradition" and "religion" the practice crumbled.

    If you ask someone to leave your establishment because they are wearing a cross they are open to legal recourse.

    You really have no idea about the subject
    Homosexuality was removed upon the release of imperial evidence that orientation did not adversely effect their lives - thus removed.

    All the sources you are providing are very enlightening... The APA and all medical associations disagree with your belief, my view is based in that fact.

    Support the claim that homosexuals deserve equal treatment? Like I said, homosexuals don't need to prove anything. The courts have taken over - the burden is on your ilk to show why disenfranchisement of homosexuals is warranted - or lose the cases.

    You haven't put forth an argument besides appeals to tradition and crying because homosexuals are not forced to prove a genetic link to have equal treatment. If you have a source that proves otherwise feel free.

    They already have an amendment as quoted by SCOTUS.

    So your source is that you don't have any actual evidence. Great...

    Science has not yet proven what influences orientation - that's why you cannot post anything to deny them rights. Even if it was 100% a choice (like religion) there is no reason to deny them rights.

    You have proven nothing as nothing exists.

    Consent, legal consent is all the argument I need.

    Medical professionals disagree, maybe you should publish a paper with sources. Oh, wait, you don't have any.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If a member of the party lacks consent they cannot sign a legal document, you have proven nothing but repeating yourself. So saying you have supporting facts to back up your opinion is a flat out lie.
     
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    It applies to citizens and privileges.



    Because there is no state or local interest in limiting it.
     
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    I never once called it a right. I have repeatedly referred to it as privilege.
     
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    Well, go to the federal court and make the same argument. I wish you luck



    I never claimed it was genetic, not once on this entire forum.
     
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    Tolerance.... the liberal mainstay.....
     
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    Tolerance is necessary for society. I have to tolerate my naighbor's poor taste in cars, I have to tolerate the ass hat with the ultra loud stereo in his car and the garbage music he plays. I can't shoot these people I have to tolerate them.

    The regressive left don't want just tolerance or even acceptance they want approval.
     
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    Isn't it wonderful...a few minutes after Trump was sworn in, the Whitehouse stopped promoting homosexual propaganda on their website. I had never known our tax dollars were used to promote homosexuality. Well, guess it was Obama's little joke on us.

    In the rustbelt we are not as cultured as Pence's neighborhood. If someone put up a homosexual flag I could see their neighbor putting up a poster of 2 hairy homosexuals doing their deed with Obamas face over the glory hole saying..."yes we can."
     
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    Yes, good summation.

    We have always had queers in the world. They have kept to themselves and most non queers have kept their feelings to themselves. It was no big deal. Now the queers demand approval.
     
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    slackercruster Banned

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    Tolerance is not just a one way street. If the libs don't tolerate the conservatives, then libs may kill the other side and vice versa. Tolerance denotes a policy of live and let live. The problem with tolerance is when one sided toleration starts destroying society as Obama's policy has done.
     
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    The left is hollering and screeching hateful rhetoric about how hateful Trump is. Funny.
     

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