True. China is no longer Communist per se. The government of China is the Chinese Communist Party. It's prevailing ideology is codified under the Thoughts of Xi. Certainly the US wants to protect its dominance. So do lots of other countries because the alternative is Chinese or Russian dominance.
These are not strawmen, they are analogies. Vietnam controls IndoChina. I am not sure of the current situation with Cambodia. Last time I was interested, Viet had set up a puppet govt in Cambodia as the previous govt (Cambodian Communist Party - renamed Khmer Rouge by French intellectuals who were embarrassed that it's behavior was front page news) had turned on the Nth Vietnamese. Laos is a client state of Vietnam. Despite efforts to establish a Thailand Communist Party that kingdom to this day is thankfully, mercifully, free of Marxist claptrap. Hope you are, too.
Then you are engaging in Moral Equivalency. China and America are not morally equivalent. China is ruled by the Communist Party and has enormous Orwellian powers over its citizens. People in America are free to call Trump an idiot any time they please, and vote for some one else if they wish. Name one nation in SE Asia who fears the US and I will name ten nations who fear Chinese Imperialism (real Empire, as in lines on maps.)
The Chinese social structure is breaking down, as is their economy. Here are some wearing their MCGA hats. https://www.economist.com/china/2018/10/04/why-protests-are-so-common-in-china
Our media have been pounding the war drums for decades, usually against Iraq but now, somewhat less overtly, against Russia and China as well. There is a certain crowd that makes lots of money through weapons sales, and then after a conflict through contracts to rebuild...not to mention those with interest in the subject countries' natural resources (for example, rich farmland in Ukraine, now, I believe, in the clutches of GMO-pushing Monsanto --http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/monsantos-land-grab-in-ukraine/ -- not, of course, to ignore the oil deposits in theMideast and assorted rare minerals here and there, including Pakistan....
How do you describe yourself, moderate, left of center, far left? Do you believe Bush Jnr invaded Iraq for its oil? If so, did he get it? You don't like GMO's - do you believe laser scanning of food to be a Real Issue? You support vaccinations? Do you believe reports that hundreds of babies died of measles? What media group in the US are supporting war, and which war?
What is your source of information? https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/04/india/india-pilot-moustache-intl/index.html? New Delhi, India (CNN)The Indian fighter pilot captured by Pakistan after his plane was shot down in a dogfight has become an unlikely fashion trendsetter following his return to India.
where you get that idea? US are also consider Pakistan ally as late as 90s. in 90s indo-Pakistan war, we actually send carriers to intimate india to support Pakistan. also Pakistan buy a lot US weapons in 90s and 2000s. we have vast interest in Pakistan during afahan war, and still do. The worst thing would be Pakistan collapse then all the muslim extremist will find another heaven in Pakistan. alot Pakistan also die in terrorist activities in recent year due to Taliban war going on there.
During the Cold War India was friendly with the Soviets and we leaned toward pakistan Now things are different
how so? when was china seek world domination throughout its history. sure they have interest global, but that doesn't mean world domination. you got prove on that? china worry more about its domestic than external. their domestic security budget is more than their military budget.
Not WAY after Just a couple of years Now india wants good relations with America since we face a common threat from china and muslim terrorism
China is making new history now It is a slightly insane culture that dreams of being the next great world power
its doesn't mean we get rid of Pakistan, still need them in the ongoing afahan war. bush still give aid to Pakistan, remember
Let me educate you as to the meaning of Orwellian. (This doesn't mean I'm an advocate for the Chinese system - anything but!) Saying something's Orwellian doesn't mean the freedom to be crude and insulting to others. That's only a sign of one's civility or lack of it. Orwellian is when terms are used that contradict the actual intent so as to deceive and manipulate others. It's a means of brainwashing. An example is when Washington and their propaganda networks use terms like 'democracy building' to overthrow democratically elected leaders and impose their own leaders on nations. This was done in Ukraine, and they tried to do it in Syria. Another example is when Washington uses the term 'humanitarian intervention' to bomb and kill people for their own self serving interests. Right now they're using this term in reference to the crises in Venezuela. Any crisis there is caused by our own sanctions, so end the sanctions and the crisis will end - but that's not Washington's intent. The intent is to overthrow Maduro even if it becomes a non ending war with millions of lives lost. So much for Washington's 'humanitarian' intervention. Pure Orwellian! The hypocrisy and deception is appalling. I'm the father of lies, that's what I be. I'm also known as misery.
every raising power will have its interest, whether india or china. if china economy/military are like that of 80s, then its no problem. in term of china personal freedom compare to 80s vs now, now its much better. The problem is china are expanding its influence it has vast economy interest in Africa/middle east, hence they want a blue navy to protect it. they want south china sea like how we did Caribbean Monroe Doctrine. its a trap, hard to get out of it. 20-30 years from now india will also gonna expand, and we gonna consider them a threat like we did with china. India also has ambition to become a superpower.
All nations want to be great, but not to control the world. I mean come on, what nation would want to pay for armies all over the world. The US is the only fools, but when you're destroying other nations like we do, then paranoia set in. China wants what other nations want, a multi polar world. China can't survive on its own. Too many people, and not enough natural resources.
China realized years ago that the US would start seeing its growth as a threat, and took it into consideration. They can't take chances, they have too many mouths to feed, and they lack the self sufficiency that a country like Russia has. This is probably why they embraced Russia and were cheering when Putin got fed up with Europe and turned Eastwards. That union will grow even more so since China has what Russia doesn't, people, and with people comes industry and growth. Not that Russia isn't taking precautions that it won't be overwhelmed in the Far East, but thankfully for them, the Chinese have an aversion to the cold. Anyway, this is how I see things - which probably doesn't mean much. Okay, so at least I admit it.
India is freaking out over the New York Times. I guess they expected better of them, but what they were before and what they are now are two different things. This is what they wrote to under grade the Indian air force. No mention was made of the MiG21 Bison shooting down an F-16 before being downed itself. "An Indian Air Force pilot found himself in a dogfight last week with a warplane from the Pakistani Air Force, and ended up a prisoner behind enemy lines for a brief time", the article reads. This is the response from an Indian reporter: "You can draw your own conclusions, but don't basic reporting guidelines mean you at least report the detailed Indian claim that the IAF MiG 21 Bison shot down an F-16 before being downed itself?" Vishnu Som, defence editor, NDTV tweeted.
I wish it was a lie but unfortunately it is not. Let's start the list with Bolton and Pompeo and then we can go on to all the hawks and neo cons chomping at the bit to do Saudi and Israel's bidding to take out Iran. Clearly you do not understand the history of your own government and it's long history of attacks and aggression to weaker governments it does not like. The raving rhetoric coming from State and National Security is exactly the same as it was before Iraq and the war drums are unmistakable. Except for people who choose to be willfully blind to what is happening.
No, I posted an op ed that stated facts in order to support my opinion. You have yet to address these facts. Specifically: "Many of the 45 present-day undemocratic U.S. base hosts qualify as fully “authoritarian regimes,” according to the Economist Democracy Index. In such cases, American installations and the troops stationed on them are effectively helping block the spread of democracy in countries like Cameroon, Chad, Ethiopia, Jordan, Kuwait, Niger, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates. This pattern of daily support for dictatorship and repression around the world should be a national scandal in a country supposedly committed to democracy. It should trouble Americans ranging from religious conservatives and libertarians to leftists ― anyone, in fact, who believes in the democratic principles enshrined in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. After all, one of the long-articulated justifications for maintaining military bases abroad has been that the U.S. military’s presence protects and spreads democracy. Far from bringing democracy to these lands, however, such bases tend to provide legitimacy for and prop up undemocratic regimes of all sorts, while often interfering with genuine efforts to encourage political and democratic reform. The silencing of the critics of human rights abuses in base hosts like Bahrain, which has violently cracked down on pro-democracy demonstrators since 2011, has left the United States complicit in these states’ crimes. During the Cold War, bases in undemocratic countries were often justified as the unfortunate but necessary consequence of confronting the “communist menace” of the Soviet Union. But here’s the curious thing: in the quarter century, since the Cold War ended with that empire’s implosion, few of those bases have closed. Today, while a White House visit from an autocrat may generate indignation, the presence of such installations in countries run by repressive or military rulers receives little notice at all. So, are you denying these facts on the dictators and despotic regimes that the US supports with direct military funding and the number of bases or are you just refusing to discuss the issue? Remember it was you who originally suggested something about "dictatorial power structures" being inherent to leftists in response to a post I made. Now you are refusing to acknowledge your own governments history of supporting such power structures??
Moral equivalency is only in your mind. Morals are subjective and have little real meaning in the affairs of great states. Great states act in their own interests and the US has been just as brutal and bloody in projecting power as any other. Consider the millions of innocent children killed by sanctions alone and that is not even taking into account the civilians killed in your countless military actions to bring "peace and democracy" to the world. China, as is Russia, is surrounded by American military bases from Japan and Korea to the Philippines Australia and Afghanistan. China is reacting as any great nation would in order to counter these direct threats in it's own interest. It is pure patriotic propaganda from corporate media that tells you that you somehow have the moral superiority to attack other nations you do not like which the US has a long history of. Why is it okay for you to illegally attack nations you do not like and enforce regime change on countries who do not submit to your demands while evil for nations like China and Russia which, in fact have not directly attacked anyone for decades. I do however agree that China's military expansion into the South China Sea is a concern for SE Asian nations. There should be negotiated territorial negotiations and settlements all around. I think this will be impossible in the current highly dangerous political climate in the US.
