Military officers want a new investigation

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  1. Stndown

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    Of course it would lead to much darker places. I don't dispute that. The whole thing is a house of cards anyway, and the way I see it, the sooner it falls, the sooner it can be rebuilt. What do we do? Ask nicely? Ask how much extra jet fuel the big boys need for their leisure? Being nice ain't going to make anything happen. It's been tried.
     
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    You would be in the 'low standards' group for sure....
     
  3. Jango

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    1) I agree with that - that things are leading to that place. Things like more-and-more militarized police, legislation, executive orders, other Presidential orders, etc have paved the way for it to happen and be legal.

    2) I honestly don't believe there is any way for private citizens to come out of it with advantage after the government drops the hammer. Think of the Soviet Union or North Korea. Complete subjugation which was/is met with minute resistance. Why? Because it is a death sentence or life in a labor camp not just for the "rebellious" person but for their family & friends too.

    3) Let's assume though that the elite were deposed. What next? Someone has to lead. The cycle would begin anew. Why? Those who control $ & :gun: run the show.

    4) People should be paying attention when flithy rich men like Bill Gates & Ted Turner openly talk about population control, specifically lowering it by several billion. I don't know how old you are, but I'm not even 30 yet - this great depopulation process will happen in my lifetime. As I've told my dad, I'm already figuratively dead. Most of us are, anyway.
     
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    My sincere advice to you, man, is to enjoy your life for as long as you can get away with it. Because when the other shoe drops, what's rebuilt in the aftermath isn't going to be a better version of democracy in America - instead, think of the Soviet Union & North Korea as better suited examples of what it'd be like here.
     
  5. Stndown

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    Never to let a cheap shot go by.
     
  6. Stndown

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    Well, then we can begin to rebuild a more equitable economic system for our children and their futures. So be it. It's going to crash regardless of whether anybody wishes it or not though. It cannot be sustained inevitably.

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    Well, then we can begin to rebuild a more equitable economic system for our children and their futures. So be it. It's going to crash regardless of whether anybody wishes it or not though. It cannot be sustained inevitably.
     
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    With reasoning like 'it smells funny',what did you expect?
     
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    Nothing less from one who reasons 'it's true cause they tell me so'.
     
  9. Hannibal

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    That's the truther credo. Personally, I look to the evidence.
     
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    I think everybody looks at the evidence
    unfortunately its a bit like the blind men
    who encounter an Elephant and each has
    a different story to tell about the beast.

    sad really .........

    maybe its exactly what the real perpetrators
    wanted, that is a mass of divergent factions
    that are at each other, rather than tracking
    down & busting the actual perpetrator(s).

    Divide & Conquer
    or?
     
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    You think I just take 'their' word for it?
    I may have been born at night,but it wasn't LAST night
     
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    Sad really how all this works,
    I respect the Military officers who have served their country.
    Just want to point out that this comes 'round to an argument
    from authority, in that these are to be considered extra credible
    people, because they have achieved these things in their lives,
    such as earning advanced degrees, or earning rank as an officer.
    Truly I intend no disrespect for people who have worked hard to
    earn their position in whatever field they have, but also may I
    point out the fact that anybody who did not sleep through
    science 101, can get this, tall buildings simply do not "fall down"
    in the manner that WTC1,2 & 7 did unless there is some special
    intervention at work, airliners do not punch holes in buildings and
    then disappear inside ( Pentagon magic trick? ). We have been
    treated to a made for TV drama, nothing more, its FAKE!
    and I know this disturbing news to some, and in fact so disturbing,
    that they will refuse to accept what is right in front of them, sorry
    about that.
     
  13. Hannibal

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    Strawman
    Argument from incredulity.
     
  14. genericBob

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    so you personally actually buy that story
    about "FLT77" crashing into the PENTAGON
    is that it?
     
  15. Hannibal

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    The evidence all points to that conclusion.
     
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    Maybe in your opinion, however, there are all sorts of very
    good reasons to KNOW, that is not guess, not speculate
    but know that it wasn't a big Boeing airliner that hit the
    PENTAGON.
     
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    Not just my opinion. It's a fact. AA77 crashed into the Pentagon killing, among others, a personal friend.
     
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    I'm sorry for your loss,
    however, unless you personally were at the PENTAGON
    that day and personally witnessed "FLT77" crashing into
    the building, it is most likely that your friend was murdered
    by the same perpetrators who set-up the whole False Flag.
     
  19. Hannibal

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    I've done the research and spoken to civilian witnesses who witnessed the crash.

    AA77 crashed into the Pentagon on 9/11/01. All evidence points to that conclusion.
     
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    Then you probably just need to look past the 'official' narrative and you'll be fine.

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    Only if they go along with the story, do they deserve respect (I guess?).
     
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    absolute certainty is a wonderful thing,
    "ALL" the evidence points to the conclusion that
    a big Boeing crashed into the Pentagon that day(?)
    really, ALL of it.
     
  22. Hannibal

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    Yes. All of it.

    My family friend got on AA77.
    Her DNA and personal effects were found in the rubble of the Pentagon damage.
     
  23. genericBob

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    and so that accounts for "ALL" of the evidence?
    there is very serious evidence of the scene, that is
    the angle that the airliner was alleged to have struck
    the starboard side wing would have struck the wall
    aprox the same time as the nose was also striking the
    wall, talk about asymmetrical forces, and still the aircraft
    was alleged to have broken up in such a manner as to have
    99% of the aircraft enter the building through the hole.
    plausible, probable or just plain outrageous?
    what?
     
  24. Hannibal

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    Argument from incredulity. Show your math.
     
  25. genericBob

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    This does not require "math" to prove the point
    you asserted that ALL of the evidence points to
    there having been a big Boeing crashed into the
    PENTAGON, however, the evidence of the actual
    crash, that is what could be expected to happen
    upon an airliner crashing into the PENTAGON at
    the angle that the alleged "FLT77" was said to have
    hit, and think about the distinct possibility of not only
    having the starboard side wing break off, but having the
    wing not follow the fuselage into the building but remain
    outside. What sort of probability would you estimate for
    this? we are down to probabilities again and really given
    precedent airliner crashes, I'd say the probability is very
    great for the wing to remain on the Pentagon lawn.

    This is not simply an "argument from incredulity"
    it is based on probability and data from previous
    documented airliner crashes.
    in addition, there is the matter of the physics of the event.
    in the case of an airliner crashing into the Pentagon in the
    manner alleged, the starboard side wing would most likely
    break off, and as a broken off bit, it would have less mass
    than the total of the whole aircraft obviously and as such
    would have then lower KE to cause the wing to travel.
    couple that with the concept that as a wing, it would
    by the very nature of its design tend to create lift, so
    upon being disconnected from the airliner, the wing would
    rise and the part that was closest to the fuselage would
    then strike the building higher up and lacking sufficient
    KE to penetrate the wall, would bounce off landing on the
    PENTAGON lawn. The data from other documented
    airliner crashes gives the foundation for questioning the
    official story of "FLT77".

    so in short, ALL of the evidence does NOT support the official story.
     

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