Millennial women not supporting Hillary

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  1. Uber Lib

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    I've done all I can here, if you're dead set on suicide then I can't help you further
     
  2. Lesh

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    Voting third party WOULD turn the government over to Republican.

    That happened in 2000 and it's a big part of what you remember as far as "capitalism passing you by".

    It'll pass you by but good if we make that mistake again
     
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    Suicide would be voting for Hillary. If we want ALL leftists to vote, we need to nominate Bernie. My generation knows better than to be fooled again like we were with Obama.

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    So my advice would be to nominate Bernie so we can have as many people turn out to vote as possible. I am telling you, Hillary is very unpopular with my generation. Not because we are conservatives, but because she is a liar and a corporate shill. We need to nominate Bernie! You cannot blame us for voting in our own interest. The party establishment better listen to us.
     
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    But then there are no moderate Republicans anymore so...

    She's in about the same place politically as her husband (she's probably a little to the left of Bill). I've always said he was the best Republican President we ever had.

    The country did damn well under him.

    And not voting or voting for anyone othr than the Dem in the general election would be voting against your own interests.
     
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    Well the millenials, especially the ones in the sounding board that is college today, are huge Sanders fans. I seriously talked philosophy with the chair of the department the other day and we talked about economics and the 1% issue, i.e. income and wealth disparities. I had said before that it isn't an issue and she had dismissed me pretty much out of hand, but apparently she heard some libertarian talk recently and then was more willing to listen to what I was saying and couldn't find herself substantially disagreeing. My point here is simply that the sounding board is that bad that someone who has gone through to get her PhD and taught at the undergraduate level for decades heard about the libertarian take on the 1% for the very first time from me. And it's not like she's close minded, she's brilliant and pretty open, but in decades in academia she never heard the libertarian position on the issue. The college sounding board is that bad, and that's why college students are so liberal - they don't hear the other side except for when Jon Stewart makes fun of the handful of Pat Robertson types, and so that's what they think the "other side" really is.

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    Not really dude. For once there is a genuine split in the Democratic party - Sanders can bring out the uber-liberal Democratic vote, but he's doing horrible with minorities.
     
  6. Uber Lib

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    but not irreparable like w krazy kons, we'll deal w it easy
     
  7. bigfella

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    Hilary will get more of the things Sanders wants done than Sanders ever will. She has a better understanding of how the political system & the Presidency works than any candidate I can think of for generations and she will stop someone WAY worse getting the job. She will also ensure an SC that remains disposed toward interpretations of the constitution I assume you prefer.

    If Sanders gets the nomination you just hand the Presidency to whatever emerges from the GOP swamp. Rubio if you are lucky, Cruz or Trump if not. Rather get hit by a truck or a train? Hilary is like being clipped by a pushbike by comparison.

    Romance is great, but Presidential politics ain't the place for it.

    Oh, and on the topic of the OP, anyone care to predict that millennial women are going to vote GOP over Dem? They might prefer Sanders to Clinton, but I'm betting that Clinton v any GOP candidate won't even be close.
     
  8. Uber Lib

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    it's only attitudes like that will cause Sanders to lose, it's his otherwise
     
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    No, Sanders will lose because he appeals to a narrow demographic; his ground game and organization aren't up to a nationwide contest; and he is an opportunist using a party he has no allegiance to as a vehicle for his own ambition. He is struggling to get above 40% in nationwide polls of Dem voters in what is basically a 2 horse race on the most favourable ground he can get & with next to no negative campaigning.

    He would get slaughtered in a Presidential election against virtually anything with a pulse. The only GOPers who would threaten Clinton are Rubio & Christie, and one of those has only slightly more chance than me of getting the nod. 'Attitudes like mine' would save the Democratic party from making a mistake of McGovernlike/Goldwaterlike proportions if Clinton's ability to win votes outside a handful of very white rather small states wasn't going to do it anyway.
     
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    Yeah, plus Biden went over to the Daiseys Forum(Davos) to tell them. That the US won't be going Socialist. So don't worry about Sanders. Basically telling them the Demos won't pick him as the Nominee.
     
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    He knows it isn't going to happen & he knows why - Sanders doesn't have the support or the organization to do it. The party doesn't want to have to deal with losing a Presidential election it is favoured to win and the carnage down ticket if The Bern wins. Of course, it won't have to.
     
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    Right now Hillary has over 500 Superdelegates to Sanders 2. Even if were to win Iowa and NH. His stoppers has been set up for SC.

    Although, yesterday she got an endorsement from the Register in Iowa. A week out before the festivities takes place. Might help her a lil bit in Iowa.
     
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    or just reassuring a lot of nervous PAC contributors who see Iowa trending. Iowa is normally not known for it's liberal values. However back in 1980 they did go for a second Carter term so who knows. Sanders kind of reminds me of Carter on steroids economically
     
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    No way he will take SC, the demographics of the lowcountry is the stopper. He might do ok in a few of the upstate counties, but otherwise it is already owned by Clinton
     
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    Carter was in the Navy and knew quite a bit more about how things work, than Sanders.
     
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    Yeah and the funny thing is......he knows it! It is all down hill for him from then on.
     
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    No, those people grow up and all that nonsense disappears. More likely the young will become even more apathetic than usual and stay far away from the polls if they don't vote Republican, because both liberals are dead ends...
     
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    all 2 of them? ha! they're all yours, have fun watching from the cheap seats for a long time
     

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