Minneapolis officer's attorney alleges George Floyd overdosed on fentanyl, says charges should be dr

we watched the video, what that cop did was uncalled for, everyone could see that

 

As someone who has lots of experience with folks on both drugs, I disagree. While I agree that the cop made a mistake, I believe Floyd is the one who created the situation that induced the cop to make the mistake, and therefore they both share responsibility for the death. I would lean toward Floyd's share is more.

 

No, the autopsy absolutely does not say his lungs were full of fluid, and it clearly says there was no consolidation (note, consolidation is the medical term used for when the lungs are full of fluid) furthermore, if his lungs were filled with fluid, there is absolutely no reason why that would not be listed as the cause of death if they were. To quote the autopsy again

I'm sorry, but facts are facts, you can't just make up things the way you want them to be and claim that is what that autopsy says when it is not what it says

 

Which brings us back to the original question I already asked you:

What do you think this means?

RESPIRATORY SYSTEM:

The right and left lungs weigh 1085 and 1015g, respectively. The external surfaces are pink only on the most anterior aspects, and deep red-purple in all other areas. The pulmonary parenchyma is diffusely congested and edematous

 

Once again, you are trying to only quote a portion of the paragraph instead of the whole thing to create a completely different narrative from what the autopsy actually says. It's disingenuous

When the lungs fill with fluid it is called pulmonary consolidation, this can be edema, or it can be a completely different fluid, but in either case that is not what happened to George Floyd. If it were then that would be the cause of death

 

that is bs, the cop did not make a mistake, the cop killed this man, why?

 

No he didn't, the suspect killed himself.

 

So you are telling me that I can get jacked up on meth and fentanyl, walk amongst the community,, disregard anything any authorities say, and if Ii end up causing a situation that caused my death, no responsibility should be assigned to me at all? It seems we have 2 different ideas on what constitutes responsibility.

 

I am telling you that you can't kill someone even if they are on drugs....

this man was handcuffed and in police custody, no reason to kill him in such a slow way as this cop did

 

The autopsy doesn't specifically state it as the cause of death for the motive of the case, it's literally tainted and I would argue can't even be submitted into evidence because of it being tainted. How can one say "all of the circumstances that would lead to the swelling of the lungs are there, but we won't list it as the cause of death?"

That's irresponsible(well, if done without purpose but I would also look into charging the person who did the autopsy with obstruction of justice). It was clearly written in the best possible light for the prosecution, and not dispassionately viewing the circumstances surrounding the body of George Floyd.

 

Oh no one is questioning whether or not the lungs were swollen, the question is whether or not respiratory failure occurred due to excess fluid in the lungs. If fluid in the lungs were the cause of death, it would have been apparent in the autopsy. In fact it is a condition that is visible through a mere x-ray, an autopsy isn't even required to identify it. According to all medical science available on the matter, George Floyd's cause of death was not due to fluid buildup in the lungs, and we're not just talking about a matter of mere phrasing in the autopsy either, because all autopsies conducted by the state/county are done under full discloser. We already know that the cause of death was not pulmonary edema since there was no indication of consolidation in the lungs.

Furthermore, pulmonary edema isn't typically fatal, especially if the person is given immediate medical attention. Often times symptoms can be relieved simply by being positioned upright. It doesn't become fatal on its own unless the lungs are full of edema fluid to the point that they are no longer compressible, this is a condition known as pulmonary consolidation. Now in regards to there being some fluid present, many things can cause fluid to collect in the lungs, including health conditions such as asthma, or physical pressure put on the respiratory system. However, the presence of some fluid doesn't necessary mean that pulmonary consolidation has occurred, in the same sense that some rainfall doesn't necessarily mean that flooding has occurred. In the case of George Floyd, again we already know through all medical science available on the matter that pulmonary edema was not the cause of death

 

He didn't kill him because he was on drugs. He was forced to restrain him because he was on drugs. The restraint method/duration was the mistake; Floyd bears some responsibility in his own death for putting the cop in the situation in the first place.

Meth makes you stubborn and strong. Ever tried to get someone on meth to do ANYTHING they don't want to do? Good luck. Add in the fentanyl which makes you feel ZERO pain and adds a serious don't give a f attitude and you got a dangerous combo.

 

He didn't, he just restrained him pending treatment, the lethal dose of fentanyl and his decision to resist killed him.

 

huh? he killed him on video for us all to see - not sure how anyone could defend this cops actions