Miscellaneous Thoughts About God

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  1. Distraff

    Distraff Well-Known Member

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    I sometimes wonder if maybe God is actually the bad guy and the devil is the good guy. Just look at how Nazi propaganda portrayed Hitler as perfect and Americans as evil. This is a God who has done/ordered genocide twice. Once when he flooded the earth, and the second was with the Canaanites. Makes you think.
     
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    It would be self evident that a nervous system/psychological disorder would be at variance with the spirit and meaning of such a law, and as such, inapplicable. Consequently, the petty points of your anti Christ do not hold up to basic reason.
     
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  3. Derideo_Te

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    :roflol:

    Kneejerk DENIALISM does NOT alter FACTUALLY DOCUMENTED history one iota!

    Ironic that it is YOU that is using your own "twisted view of reality to suit your bias" while FALSELY accusing others of doing so.

    The really AMUSING aspect is that the above content contains egregious VIOLATIONS of one of the 10 Commandments that you allegedly believe to be a Christian "value".

    :roflol:
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    YOUR imaginary deity having OMNIPOTENCE would have had that KNOWLEDGE but still went ahead and CONDEMNED those TS Children to DEATH in his INFALLIBLE "word of god" that YOU previously alleged CANNOT be "bartered" and MUST be "left untouched" EXACTLY as it was ORIGINALLY written.

    So are you now CONTRADICTING your OWN prior allegations in #135 above regarding the "infallible word" of your imaginary god?

    Either he CONDEMNED those TS kids to DEATH or you are EQUIVOCATING about what he EXPLICITLY TOLD you to DO to them.

    You don't get to have it BOTH ways.
     
  5. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    The only one here using Gods commands so as to condemn the innocent to death is you. And too, for the sole purpose of faulting God. Is there no end to your animus? You make big talk about science while you play with fire.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Once again you resort to puerile ad homs because you CANNOT defend your imaginary sociopathic god.

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
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  7. JAG*

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    If you have a minute, tell me about The Life Of Brian.
    Tell me why you think its a great movie.
    I have never heard of that movie and I am always on
    the search for an uplifting cheerful positive faith-building film.

    You ever see the Kendrick Brothers' film titled "Overcomer"?
    Overcomer is a magnificent movie.


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    Best.

    JAG
     
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  8. Injeun

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    You have a legion of excuses to hide behind, yet act as if they should all be done away before you acknowledge the veracity of true religion. But where to hide then? Would you tell the Judge that the law is irrelevant because of all the people who break it? And would you go even further and say that because the origin or value of the law has no scientifically discernable dimensions, it therefore is a crime to be a law, deserving no regard...effectively arresting the truth and freeing criminality, like Jesus was arrested and Barabbas freed. Or simply ignore the entirety of it and wander about like water buffalo, aimlessly chewing and mooing, oblivious to predation. The whole of your argument is senseless across the board, and a mockery of common sense and reason. I'm just a man who knows that God is real and that he lives. All you know is that you live.
     
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    You bury senselessness in exaggerated mocking's and call me "puerile"? Well aren't you special.
     
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    If you're serious about that, then your pool of knowledge about
    what happened and why it happened is near to zero.

    All you have to do is merely read Leviticus chapter 18.

    Just that one chapter alone -- it only has 30 verses and you can
    breeze through it.

    And remember now not to "pick and choose" which parts of the
    Bible you're going to believe -- i mean you accept the Bible as
    true when it records what you call "God ordered genocide twice."

    So?

    So to be consistent you must also accept what is recorded in
    Leviticus chapter 18 to see and understand WHY God destroyed
    them.

    Long story short: Here is WHY:

    They were a violent murderous people that had sunk to the very
    bottom of immorality and were unfit to live. They were having
    sex with their mothers and their fathers and their own children.
    They were murdering their children in sacrifice to their god Molek
    verse 21.

    They were having sex with animals.

    Think about what I just wrote.
    They were having sex with their own mother and their own father.
    and having sex with their own children , ,

    , , , and , , ,

    having sex with animals.

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    Regarding the general concept of obeying God , , ,

    If you think God and His laws are to be trifled with -- you are going to
    be unpleasantly, at some future point, confronted with your serious
    misconception about God and His laws. He commands you to repent
    and to believe in His Son and He puts His Honor on the line and tells
    you that if you refuse to do that, then you personally will experience the
    perish of John 3:16. You will personally experience it.
    "For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son that
    whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.."
    John 3:16 gives you 2 choices:
    {1} refuse to believe and perish
    {2} choose to believe in Jesus as your Savior and get eternal life

    JAG


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    RE: Miscellaneous Thoughts About God
    SUBTOPIC: No Thought About a Deity is Miscellaneous
    ⁜→ JAG*, et al,

    BLUF: There is something wrong with the idea that a Supreme Being needs one of it creations to correct the mistake of the Deity.

    (COMMENT)

    The Supreme Being that we (humanity) accept as the creator of all that the universe (and that of the supernatural realm beyond) contains does not need to judge the behaviors of any element of humanity (individually or collectively). The behaviors attributed to mankind are a product of the Supreme Beings creation. The Supreme Being cannot be disappointed in the creation (mankind) or the behaviors of the individual lifeforce because it is of the Supreme Being's making. And if the individual lifeform violates some divine charter of the Supreme Being, then the fault is in the creator's craftmanship and not the individual lifeforce.

    Humanity generally attributes the Supreme Being with these characteristics:

    ◈ Omnipresent –
    ✦ Everywhere at once because the Being is infinite.
    ✦ Unchanging​
    ◈ Omnipotent –
    ✦ All-Powerful
    ✦ Capable of creating all that is seen and unseen

    ✦ Self-Sufficient
    ✦ Has no need, has no wants,​
    ◈ Omniscient –
    ✦ All-Knowing
    ✦ Perfect Knowledge of the past, present, future,
    ✦ Possessing the Ultimate Wisdom​
    ◈ Just, Merciful, Compassionate, –
    The Ultimate Truth
    The Ultimate presentation of Love

    Buried in these human characteristics which are embedded in the perception of the Supreme Being is that it cannot create that which is flawed. I am flawed. If the Supreme Being created me, that means (if these characteristics are accurate) the flaws in me are intentional. What I can and cannot do are exactly what the Supreme Being intended. If I am mentally deficient and turn-out to be a sociopath or serial murderer, then the Supreme Being did not make a mistake in my synaptic connections.

    The Supreme Being created Hitler, Stalin,
    Charles Taylor, Omar al-Bashir, or Saddam Hussein and knew with its perfect knowledge, what each would do before they were even born.

    I find these observations to be a paradox on multiple levels. The Supreme Being cannot be Just, Merciful, and Compassionate and allow these personalities to exist. If the creator of the universe wanted perfect, obedient, and worshiping humans, it only needed to make the change, and the Supreme Being's will be done.


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    R
     
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    https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/overcomer-movie-review-2019

    Ebert NAILED it!
     
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    :roflol:

    How hard did you have to TRY to get ALL of the ABOVE absolutely WRONG on all counts? :eek:

    Are you aware that the term VERACITY means CONFORMITY as in you MUST obey your IMAGINARY deity or else you will be PUNISHED? Mindless obedience to authority is what has caused ATROCITIES like the Holocaust and your imaginary deity makes that look insignificant in COMPARISON to the wholesale atrocities that he has committed and ORDERD to be done in his name.

    Gotta LAUGH out loud at the FALLACIOUS claim to being the "true religion". Seriously? FIVE+ BILLION people REJECT your religion and FOUR billion of those believe that some OTHER religion meets the definition of being "true". Since YOU claim that ALL of the others are FALSE and they call YOUR religion false they WIN just be sheer weight of numbers.

    Then you GRASP at the feeble "judgement" straw! JUSTICE requires EQUALITY and yet you make EXCUSES when your imaginary deity VIOLATES the same law that he is using to JUDGE YOU? You are NOT allowed to kill but your imaginary sociopath of a deity engages in WHOLESALE MURDER on a daily basis? As far as your vapid attempt to equate the Law of the Land as UPHELD by We the People to the Stone Age SUPERSTITIONS of your imaginary deity that is just RISIBLE.

    And then you make a BIZARRE attempt to come up with an ad hom so you chose to denigrate water buffalos WITHOUT any clue as to the FACT that they are closely related to the African buffalo which is one of the most DANGEROUS animals ranking in the Top 5. They are intelligent enough to circle back on their predators and then attack them. Just another example of the hubris so prevalent among theists to put down the intelligence of other species.

    Having an IMAGINARY friend is quite common among children but ADULTS know the difference between what is REAL and what is imaginary.

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
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    Having an IMAGINARY friend fits the definition of special and I am not the one who believes in imaginary Stone Age skybullies.

    :roflol:
     
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    That's not very scientific of you.
     
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    This is a game for you. I get it. At best, you fool yourself. May God bless you according to his mercy.
     
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    Asinine non sequitur response.
     
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    :roflol:

    Yet another ABJECT FAILURE to DEFEND your UNTENABLE positions so you hide behind your IMAGINARY deity again.

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
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    What if, when one dies, one does go to heaven only to find that everyone does? Who would question 'God' about the presence of Stalin and Hitler and Genghis Khan? Or demand an explanation for how the Bible didn't say this would be the case?
    'God', to be 'God', is so far beyond human capacity for comprehension that any thinking person has to know that the entire 'God' concept can only be approached metaphorically. Anything and anyone talking about 'God' is, at the very most, pointing in a direction, not speaking from authority. Hearing or reading about 'God' is hearsay evidence, and you know what courts make of that. The only thing that could ever count would be personal revelation. If you have it, that's enough. If you don't, nothing is enough.
     
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    You can afford to be easy on him unless you have something to replace what you consider his error.
     
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    100% ASSBACKWARDS!

    Anyone who ALLEGES the existence of an IMAGINARY deity has the ONUS to provide CREDIBLE and VERIFIABLE evidence to SUBSTANTIATE their allegation.

    The FACT that everything that has been provided to date has FAILED to meet that LOW bar is NOT my problem.
     
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    RE: Miscellaneous Thoughts About God
    SUBTOPIC: No Thought About a Deity is Miscellaneous
    ⁜→ David Landbrecht, et al,

    BLUF: This is the "Great Paradox."

    (COMMENT)

    Everything you know about the Supreme Being is hearsay. There has been no real evidence of a deity → since the beginning of time.

    There is NO knowledge, about the Supreme Being or deity, that is held today that comes from a proven divine source; a source that can be substantiated. There is NO knowledge that comes from a great supernatural power that we can distinguish from that of a Delusional person.


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    You may be blind, but you sure aren't mute. Tell me again what all you see. It is music to my ears. ;-)
     
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    What?

    Your IMAGINARY deity isn't talking to you any longer?

    Have the voices in your head stopped? ;)

    Better get down on your knees and BEG for forgiveness because of all the VIOLATIONS that you have committed against your Imaginary deity in this thread.

    :roflol:
     
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    Matthew 13:13

    “Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.”
     

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