~ MOD ALERT ~ Iran's response to Israel's latest threats

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    ~ MOD ALERT ~


    He seems to have a good point. Israel was built on lies and warmongering, and it's policies remain the same to this day.
     
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    "The Israeli prime minister had better not even think about attacking Iran, let alone planning for that."

    Seems like he has admitted that Israel has not threatened anything.

    Golly.
     
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    Didn't you read the article? Amid outright lies about Iran having threatened to ''wipe Israel off the map,'' and baseless allegations about nuclear weapons,'' Netanyahu declared:

    Or, do you reckon this is just another lie?
     
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    Israel has been claiming that Iran will bomb them for well over a decade. Check the news. Bibi is making the rounds again.
     
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    And how is Iran threatening and insinuating that Israel be wiped off the map and timeline of history a threat from Israel?
     
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    Of course they don't have nuclear weapons and are not building them. We, the world just wants to verify they don't and Iran is not letting us do that despite signing a treaty which states they must.

    Their threshold for waiting for the UN to run it's course from sanctions to war is a lot lower considering one bomb could destroy their nation.
     
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    North Korea didnt bomb anyone either but it doesnt mean its OK for that regime to own a Nuke, Iran plans and Iran actions are two diffrent things since the sanctions do work, you need to judge according to their actions like hidden facilities and logic like the fact they agree to have sanctions while keeping the inspectors out - that's not just for fun.
     
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    You mean MEMRI's translation?

    Iran said that Zionism should be wiped off the map..

    We no longer have Nazism.. Some ideologies should pass into history.
     
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    Does Israel allow inspectors?

    Dimona Letter from JFK , May 1963

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/FRUS5_18_63.html
     
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    You have other translations? Please provide them. And yes, now we have instead of Nazism Neo Nazis. You can possibly find some of them here.

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    Not required to as they didn't sign the NPT as Iran did and, must allow or, face sanctions and increasingly severe measures.
     
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    Nither does India and Pakistan but both didnt make declarations on destroying another state and dont support terror organizations ot carried terror attacks directed from the gov, that seems to be the concern the Western countries have, I mean I would be very complemented if these states made sanctions for Israel request but lets be frank here, its not Israel's "show" no matter how bad Bibi tries to national it....
     
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    I am a Zionist and I and nothing sort of a Nazi, that myth is taken for Arabian Nights and shouldnt be respected,

    Zionism is about a jewish home and nothing more, it does not speak on borders, as you well know the founder of Zionism even considered Uganda so how can you say its about ethnic cleansing ?
     
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    How did you misinterpret that sentence? It's a warning statement. What Iran has said is true, Netanyahu is the greatest war monger we've witnessed since Stalin. Has a word of peace ever been uttered out of his mouth since 1992? Going back even further into Israeli history, where terrorism was the norm by their people(but it's okay, because it's them).

    If Zionism had not infested the American Empire, we would have long condemned Israeli action(as the rest of the world and Europe has) as exclusively non-economic, terroristic and opportunistic in nature. Since I myself am neither bribed nor do I care to be, I can at least state openly here: If I were Head of State, Israel would have a true meaning of the word "tensions" with America.

    Neutrality at best, what happens from there is up to the Israelis. But I'm the least bit interested in calling an abusive partner "a special relationship". Our special relationship is with the Nation of Japan. We've worked diligently since the late 18th century in fostering those relations, the result has been developing the Asiatic cultures to a level perhaps even beyond ours.

    Both nationalities have a high(80%) approval rating of each other, if you've seen some Sakura blossoms here in the Eastern States(such as my home PA for instance), that's a sign of our close friendship.

    That special relationship, is truly something I want to devote my full attention to on the International Scale. And those warmongering, hypocritical money stealing bastards who call themselves "chosen" take us every year away from Europe and Asia.(As well as the other Western States).

    No more, American National interests is far superior to the interests of a foreign 2% of people in this country. Or to some extremist religious cult in the middle of the desert. If Israel wants America joined at her hip, it will have to do so in American terms, not the other way around.

    That means signing the NPT, the CW and confirming to inspectors where these weapons are if they do exist. It means affirming the national will and independence of the Western Nations. It means understanding that if Israel brings war to itself, that doesn't mean we'll join the fight on their behalf.

    These "goyim" have lives too, and even if they see our lives as worthless we see our lives as meaningful. Certainly more meaningful than to let ourselves perish for a pointless cause.
     
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    Or NK. They dropped out of it and the sound of the anti Israel nuke mob is deafening as they complain about those nations who are actually not at war with anybody yet still have nukes and like israel are not part of the NPT.
     
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    What about the Palestinian Home?
     
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    As soon as they wish to adhere to the principals of 181 it's theirs.
     
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    Im all for that if they can make it, I dont think they can because the divide between them is great, what ever PLO and Hamas will agree between them will not be accepted by Israe so the chances are slim, but that's not because I have a plan to drive them away to Jordan or whatever, such ppl do exist ofc but to call them Zionists along with ppl like me is like calling PLO and Hamas the same...
     
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    For a start, it's not ''the world'' that wants to verify that Iran is not building nuclear weapons. Netanyahu is almost alone in insisting that Iran should not be allowed to have uranium enrichment facilities, while the non-aligned movement, which represents the majority of countries, repeatedly affirms Iran's right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes.

    Secondly, it is not possible to verify that any country is not building anything in particular, without occupying and taking control of that country. The fact of the matter is that there is not a shred of substantiated evidence to show that Iran is building nuclear weapons.

    But Iran hasn't threatened to attack Israel, nor does it have any nuclear weapons.

    Israel is threatening to attack Iran, and Israel has lots of nuclear weapons.

    Iran hasn't attacked another country for around 200 years, excepting in self-defence. I.E. after being attacked by another country.

    Israel has attacked plenty of countries in it's short history, and in every single instance since 1948 when some Arab countries sent some troops in to try to prevent the Palestinians being expelled from their land and homes, it has been an act of Israeli aggression. I.E. Israel attacked another country before any other country attacked Israel.

    It's not surprising that most people who actually live in the region, consider Israel to be the greatest threat to peace in the region, not Iran.
     
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    Is that why Israel continues to recruit settlers and build settlements in the West Bank?

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    Golly, are you this uninformed that you are not aware of the various UNSC resolutions pertaining to this matter that are in effect?

    Well, alone if you count only the rest of the world as nobodies.

    Of course it's impossible if the nation who is supposed to adhere to the agreement and allow inspections they signed (NPT) is not intent on honoring this agreement because they are hiding something.

    Not directly however have alluded Israel should be destroyed and will not permit inspections as they are required to do by the agreements they signed with the world.

    Please show us a quote of Israel stating they are going to attack Iran.

    Sort of like Israel.

    Hmm, seems the plan in '48 and onwards was to destroy Israel and those very precepts can still be found n the official charters of the PA and Hamas as well as the nations who never signed a peace treaty with Israel and are still at war with her.

    Of course but then again they have their head up their azz.
     
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    Pakistan has been a part of U.S stated policy for a while, it however has been given a guarantee by the Chinese State, so expecting them to give up their nukes at this stage is unlikely.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/donaldk...ia-almost-allied-on-arms-and-nuclear-power/2/

    While India indeed hasn't signed any of the forementioned treaties, we're well aware of the Indian Stance.

    http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/indiaprofile

    This, in contrary to the Israeli position which neither confirms or denies(which in political speak, to me actually confirms their existence), nor does it even at least state a desire for non-proliferation. In short, the Israeli position is one of hypocrisy.

    The Israelis have effectively given us the middle finger, Benson, you're willing to accept this why? This is a disgrace to diplomacy, and normally it would hamper relations.
     
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    Netanyahu's nature was "to lie."


    *He got that right.*
     
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    Name is Drew Bedson or, if you are being friendly and familiar - Drew, not Bedson misspelled as "Benson.'

    Please try again if you wish a response.
     
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    What about you lot then?
     
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    Fine, "Bedson". I don't particularly pay attention to names when writing a post. Besides, it's one letter. It seems you share their habit of playing games though, how does the mis spelling of a name directly relate to my post?

    So now that I got your name right, I've addressed your Pakistani/Indian concerns. Pakistan unfortunately is cockblocked via China. And while India has not gone non-nuclear, it has stated a neutral albeit self-defensive stance that's similar to our own.

    Israel has given no such stance or no such indication about moving forward in a non-proliferated world. Yet, it has all the expectation for Iran to do so.(And expectation for 'us' specifically to make it happen). This is hypocrisy, pure, undaunted hypocrisy.

    Why are you accepting this as an American? Shouldn't our taxpayer dollars, our foreign power go to our allies who actually hold a consistent stance and uphold those international norms the President holds so dearly?
     

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