MOD ANNOUNCEMENT: Member Debates (Input needed)

Discussion in 'Debates & Contests' started by E_Pluribus_Venom, Jul 5, 2011.

  1. rsay32

    rsay32 New Member Past Donor

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    I find that to be an ironic statement as I believe one of the motivations behind this idea is to show the forum membership what an ADULT debate actually looks like.

    We have many members who do not need such a demonstration but we also have far too many who could benefit greatly.
     
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  2. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    Because this is what you said....

    ''Additionally if folks don't like that this option is available, they can go to vBulletin and buy the software to start their own site. ''
     
  3. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, and here you are, complaining about a proposal that is on a site you don't won. So why not go get the software and start your own site?
     
  4. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    That's exactly what I said it was... a 'demonstration' in debate.

    Then at 10:15, we'll break for juice & cookies.
     
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  5. Revere

    Revere New Member

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    I have a site!

    It's not as busy as this one, but it gets more action than the debate thread.
     
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  6. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    What part of (input needed) do you not understand, TFM? Sounds pretty clear to me.
     
  7. yguy

    yguy Well-Known Member

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    If Christ and the devil debated here, the devil would be declared the winner as long as he wasn't uncivil...

    ...or should I say, "unumutal"?
     
  8. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, and I provided my input. You are currently not providing your input. I was not aware that this thread was for debate amongst members over the merits of the proposal.

    Please direct all future snide remarks you are going to make towards me in this thread to the mods in the form of a PM. I really have no need to hear them, nor are my suggestions up for debate with you.
     
  9. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    Oh good you remember you had me worried...I would suggest to you we like the site as it is, open discussion. If there are some posters that would like to exclude some people from a thread then they should join the others that have that same desire and form a debate club in the group area.

    That is what every body else has been told to do [by the Mods], they should not think themselves any better and follow their own advice and rules. I do not want to ruin their fun, I just want them treated like the rest of us and leave our site open discussion, so perhaps it would be more appropriate if they followed your advice.
     
  10. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whatever.

    10char
     
  11. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    I do not want to exclude them, I want them in the area they belong. where they put others that exclude.


    Possibly not, if the owner looks in then I have a better chance of her seeing this, I am not going to trust the Mods to mention it..that's for sure,,,as they may errrr,,,,forget :smile:
     
  12. Frogger

    Frogger Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just as you don't think I should be allowed to tell you you cannot participate in a thread, I don't think any other poster, including the moderators, should have he right to tell me I can't participate in any thread.

    Now you're simply bringing extraneous stuff into the conversation. No one has suggested we do away with moderation. No one has said mods shouldn't monitor the site and take care of trolls. No one has even remotely suggested that flamebaits and personal attacks be allowed.

    If you want to have a serious discussion of the topic of the thread, I am willing to go along with it but if you want to get silly and start dragging red herrings across the trail I will respectfully stop responding to you.
     
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  13. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    Hey frog remember the old days?, If somebody wanted to go one on one they would call the poster out,,A mod would reff it and let everybody know. They would go at it for a few pages and everybody left them alone out of respect. Before you knew it the debate was over and everything went back to normal....so easy...

    I guess too easy huh?
     
  14. Frogger

    Frogger Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All they have to do is start a group titled, Debate. Anyone interested in participating in private debates can join that group and those not interested in it can continue to post as we always have.

    What I don't like is the exclusivity of the idea. Certain people will be invited to debate, the understanding being that no one else will be allowed to comment in that thread. Those deemed unworthy will be relegated to the 'other' thread where the common herd may participate.
     
  15. Smartmouthwoman

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    I dunno about your input, but I responded to this statement:

    Kinda snarky, even for you. ;)
     
  16. OneThunder

    OneThunder New Member Past Donor

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    Wrong. The moderators are supposed to block posters from certain threads if they are constantly flaming, trolling etc.
     
  17. Perriquine

    Perriquine On hiatus Past Donor

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    Point being, I find most of the objections raised thus far to be silly.
     
  18. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    Aren't you supposed to do that...''AFTER'' they flame and Troll? I never heard of preemptive Moding...:confuse:

    If you put this in group where it belongs you wont have these problems...
     
  19. Trinnity

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    Vagary is not the same as vague. You're welcome. :roll:
     
  20. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    Of course there is, what do you think this is about? It belongs in Group
     
  21. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    Really?, read this;;;

    ''If you choose not to accept the challenge issued, you won't be permitted to participate in the exchange taking place in the debate thread itself (until judging is complete). However, if you'd like to quote portions of the exchange and discuss it elsewhere (sideline thread) then you're free to do that...which enables you to make your points with all who also didn't accept the issued challenge. Those who are debating are also free to participate in such a sideline thread.''

    This is one of the most arrogant, condescending, Exclusive, pathetic ideas I ever ever read here. [screams of insecurity may I add]
    I can hardly believe others are buying into this, I'm embarrassed for them. So if I ''refuse'' to except the ''challenge'' issued, I will not be ''permitted'' to participate in the exchange taking place in the debate thread itself''
    What the Hell is that zero? WHAT? an inducement? punishment? banishment? how about ''Manipulation'' with a strong dose of ''much needed'' collusion.
    Might I suggest whoever thought of this be watched ''VERY'' carefully Zero...very carefully...LOL

    Now, put it in a group, no problem. That's where silly self idolizing ideas like this belong, together with a copy of Mein Kampf I suppose.
     
  22. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    that was in the old days?

    it looks like a good idea, there was nothing elitist about it.

    maybe a random pick from the pool would take out the selective authoritative control in this proposal
     
  23. Frogger

    Frogger Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you misunderstood the intent of my comment, OneThunder. I have no problem with moderators monitoring threads and removing trolls, or flamers. I was referring to telling someone they could not participate in a thread because the moderator thought the person was not a high enough caliber poster or not worthy of being allowed to post in the thread.
     
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    Frogger Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Flounder is correct, telling someone they cannot participate in a thread because they did not accept an invitation is the height of arrogance. It was supposedly an invitation, not an order to participate although it comes across more as an order if failure to accept carries a punishment.
     
  25. Shangrila

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    Yet they can take a talking point, an idea from that very thread closed to others, and start their own thread, open to everyone.
     

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