>>>MOD WARNING<<<'Dear White People' Director And Star Break Down Why Black People Can't Be Racist

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Grokmaster, May 23, 2017.

  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    No, you're crying that facts are attacks.
    Well, there was never a culture associated with white race.
    Told what?
    That is the root of it. Societies are built on families.
    That i don't recognize the boogeyman that is "systemic racism?" Prove it exists and perhaps i will not mock it. Simply squealing "open your eyes" doesn't prove anything.
    It's amplified among black people.
     
  2. superbadbrutha

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    No, I was debating with another poster about his posts and you decided to give your two cents.

    Lol.

    About crimes whites commit and the negativities of whites.

    Is that why the black ones were basterdized.

    Well when you have never been on the receiving side of racism and discrimination of course you don't think it exist or you are in total denial of it.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    There's only one form of racism that's relevant and that's the oppression of a demographic group. The only means of oppressing a demographic is by a group that controls the social, economic, and/or political institution.

    Since colonial days our social, economic, and political institutions have always been controlled by the same demographic group - White Anglo Saxon Protestant Men and they've oppressed all other demographic groups in America since the United States was founded.

    Other demographic groups can be prejudiced, they can even commit hate crimes, but they've never had control of the social, economic, or political institutions that would allow them to be a "racist that oppresses" any other demographic group. Only WASP Males hold that distinction.

    It's impossible for blacks to oppress white (WASP) men with discrimination and there are no statistical studies that indicate that white (WASP) men have ever been discriminated against and oppressed in the United States. We can find that discrimination and oppression against every other demographic group in history including Asian males that today they're the only demographic group that statistically earns more than WASP Men. They were unquestionably discriminated against and oppressed in the past.

    When it comes to comparing black males to white males there's really no comparison.

    When equally qualified white and black men apply for a job the white male is three to five times more likely to get the job.

    When a black man and a white man are performing the same work the black man only receives 75% of the compensation when compared to the white man.

    White households have 15-times the wealth of black households because of the generational discrimination and oppression of blacks in the United States.

    Black men are far more likely to be wrongfully convicted than a white man and the darker their skin the more likely of being wrongfully convicted.

    Young black men are far more likely to be arrested and convicted for drug crimes even though whites commit the vast majority of drug crimes.

    Blacks have a history of laws being passed that deny them the right to vote. In the past this included literacy tests and poll taxes and today they're targeted with voter ID laws even though voter impersonation at the polls, the only thing voter ID laws address, is virtually non-existent (only 31 cases out of over one billion votes have been identified as being creditable).

    Black cannot "discriminate" against While Men because blacks don't control the social, economic, and political institution and that control is required for discrimination to exist.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Pragmatically the man has to be able to support the household but economic discrimination against blacks has historically prevented a significant percentage of black men from being able to secure the employment and compensation necessary to support a family.

    This is one problem that a minimum "Living Wage" (i.e. wages and benefits for a decent lifestyle) would significantly reduce (if we could get employers to hire equally qualified black men).
     
  5. Polydectes

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    no you weren't debating. You're crying about facts being attacks. If you don't want to people responding to your posts don't post on a public forum.
    that's kind of funny that you dismiss the crux of this entire argument. This entire social problem. Mosquitoes facts attacking you again. Growing up as a white person. I was never once told that if I chose any career that I would be the white equivalent of an Uncle Tom. I never had to do anything or hold up any Behavior because I was white. And that seems to be the difference. There are pejoratives like Uncle Tom, and the claim that a black person is acting white, in amongst black culture. We all know what it means. Black people are never to leave behind other black people because they're black nothing more. That's ignorant. Being black doesn't make you Noble, it also doesn't burden you with the weight of all of the black people.
    Please feel free to talk all about it. I won't whine and cry about facts being an attack. Here again is the difference and it highlights once again the crux of this issue. For me being white is an incident of my birth nothing more. My race having a higher statistic in something negative doesn't give me any existential angst. My race isn't a defining characteristic of my identity. It's an incident of my birth.
    who said black families are bastardized?
    So you know for a fact I've never been on the receiving end of racism because I'm white?

    Seems like I just now am on the receiving end of racism because I'm white at your hands. You basically said I can't know something because of my race and no other characteristic about me. That by the most simple definition is racism.
     
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    historically yes currently no. Black people have it every opportunity in the world to go to college to get hired to become economically independent. We even set up special laws to give them a preferential treatment in the workplace and College. At some point this has to fall on the heads the individual black people that don't take advantage of what is offered to them.

    Yeah segregation was ugly but it was 51 years ago does not affect men in their twenties and thirties they were never subject to it.

    aren't supposed to stay at minimum wage jobs. Those are entry level positions. The idea that there is this racism that trumps profitability in the corporate world is profoundly absurd. If I'm the CEO of a burger franchise, and someone could reduce my cost of meat without reducing my quality and they could do it for less than I would save I hire that person. Being black gay or female doesn't come into the equitation. If it did my business would fail.

    Basically put, if minimum wage isn't enough work harder.
     
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    Did you miss my request to please post within the rules?
    Please do so, or you will be thread banned.

    Thank you for your attention
     
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    I have. Terrible!
     
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    At least you actually bothered to watch it and therefore have a leg to stand on.
     
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    Well I've been told by friends who watch it that it's improved quite a bit from the pilot I reviewed and it's a totally different show. But there's so much on TV I doubt I'll go back to give it another try, however I did watch their post-election freak out show. That was pretty funny, but for differing reasons.
     
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    Yes.




    Translation, anecdote over statistical fact.

    I never said that. All I said was blacks have a higher single parent home rate than whites. That's all.

    First of all you're assuming that I only have blacks as friends. I actually have more whites than blacks. Secondly to answer question, of the friends I have that are black, one has a girlfriend and no children, one is married with no children, and one is divorced multiple times.



    Reality's.

    do you also know that blacks over represent themselves by committing half of the violent crimes while being only %13 of the population?


    Reality's.



    What are you talking about? you can't turn on CNN or Buzzfeed without some black guy talking about how cops are racists and such.




    Yes, I would.
    That's not what the evidence says.

    I would.

    What types of crimes specifically?

    Yes it did
    That's what the autopsy showed.

    You have yet to provide a single shred of evidence and yet I'm the one shining and shuffling?[/quote][/quote]
     
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    The definition of racism is thinking your race is superior than others. period. It's not dependent on whether you have power or not. besides, even if that were true, we just had the most powerful man on earth be black.
     
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    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

    The dictionary does define racism as a belief in supremacy but the "opinion" itself causes no harm. Only actions that oppress a racial group cause harm and the "opinion" really doesn't matter if the actions oppress and cause harm.

    For example Bill Maher used the N-word a week ago and Bill Maher does not believe in White Supremacy but his "action" was nonetheless racist. The N-word has been used to disparage blacks in America from the days when they were nothing more than the property of the "White Supremacists" that controlled America and it's use by Whites, regardless of whether the person is a White Supremacist, always causes harm to blacks and it's racism.

    A study in 2012 (that was a follow-up to a 2008 study) revealed that eight-out-of-ten (79%) of Republicans expressed explicit anti-black racial prejudice but that doesn't imply that they are all racists that believe in White Supremacy. They can have that racial prejudice and not be a "racist" if they ensure that their prejudice never results in, or allows for acceptance of, or ignores the racial oppression of blacks in the United States that's well documented and instead is actively working to end the nefarious acts of racsm. A person can overcome the racial prejudice they have by their actions. There's nothing wrong with "feeling superior" so long as the person never acts superior, condones, or ignores acts of supremacy that harms others, and that actively works against the harm that those actions cause. It's the actions, not the opinion, that are of importance.

    When you referred to "most powerful man on earth" being black I'm assuming this is a reference to former President Obama but it's fundamentally erroneous. He was unquestionably the most influential black man on earth as president, and was the most respected leader based upon world opinion polls, but he remained under the control of the WASP Male Supremacists that controlled our social, economic, and political institutions. Had he done anything they truly objected to he would have been impeached and removed form office in a heartbeat. As it was Obama did a fairly good job of running the country and ended up with a final approval rating of 59% (37% disapproval rating) that was equal or better than all of the Republican presidents since WW II except Ronald Reagan (Obama tied with Eisenhower's final approval rating).

    On the flip side today we have Donald Trump that has expressed extreme racial, religious and gender prejudice, he campaigned based upon that prejudice (gaining the formal endorsement of the KKK and other racist/neo-Nazi hate groups), he's been openly acting on that prejudice with his "(Muslim) travel ban" and "mass deportation (of Hispanics)" executive orders, that has never had a positive approval rating (his current approval rating is in the mid-30% and still going down), and where 48% of Americans believe he should be impeached now with only 45% believing he shouldn't be impeached (yet), while the Republican Party ("The party of angry white men") continues to protect him in spite of his racism and religious intolerance.

    Had Obama done anything similar to what Trump is doing (e.g. issuing a travel ban based upon "Christian" national origin and an executive order for ICE to focus on Canadian and German illegal immigrants that are here based upon visa over-stays) he would already be under impeachment proceedings.
     
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    A lair ?

    Like my dog made some time ago, he dug a lair and lined it with grass.

    Did you mean Liar ?
    Liar, Liar, pants on fire !
     
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    Holy Smokes Batman, DoctorWho found a typo. Give that clo..........I mean guy a Pabst Blue Ribbon.
     
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    I was only making a funny, my typos are much worse, so are my spelling miss steaks !
    Brakes, Breaks etc.... Lol

    Beer is food !
    Drink enough and you too can spell as badly.
     
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    no it is just more of the same old liberal bias an guilt,if you hate being white,go jump off a cliff,just stop with the stupid bs.
    who watches this crap ,oh let me guess.
     

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