<<Mod Warning>>Ukraine conflict: Evacuation planned in frontline town of Avdiivka

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  1. litwin

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    why is Putin gave order to attack Ukrainian army, whats behind of this story? is it because Putin can not attack sunni - arabs in Syria , but badly needs a war in order to keep his ulus (export problem somewhere) united?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38807778

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    The SMM continued to monitor the withdrawal of weapons, in implementation of the Package of Measures and its Addendum, as well as the Memorandum.

    In violation of withdrawal lines, the SMM observed two tanks (T-64) between government-controlled Orlivka (22km north-west of Donetsk) and Avdiivka (17km north of Donetsk). In government-controlled Talakivka (90km south of Donetsk) the SMM saw two towed howitzers (D-30, Lyagushka, 122mm) towed by two military trucks (Ural). In government-controlled Ivanivka (59km south-west of Donetsk) the SMM saw four multiple rocket launcher systems (BM-21 Grad, 122mm) at a military compound which were previously seen on 29 November 2016. On 29 January, approximately 2.5km north of government-controlled Aslanove (85km south of Donetsk), an SMM mini unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) spotted four self-propelled howitzers (2S1 Gvozdika, 122mm) near a tent with two-three soldiers visible and stacks of what appeared to be ammunition boxes.

    Beyond withdrawal lines but outside of assigned areas in government-controlled Novookhtyrka (55km north-west of Luhansk), the SMM saw three tanks (T-64) on flatbed trucks. South-west of government-controlled Novoaidar (49km north-west of Luhansk), the SMM observed three stationary tanks (T-64). Near government-controlled Pryvillia (85km north of Donetsk), the SMM observed six tanks (T-64) travelling north.

    The SMM observed the presence of armoured combat vehicles[2] in the security zone. The SMM saw an armoured personnel carrier (MTLB) with a mounted
    anti-aircraft cannon (ZU-23, 23mm) near government-controlled Svitlodarsk (57km north-east of Donetsk). In Stanytsia Luhanska (16km north-east of Luhansk) the SMM saw an IFV (BMP-2) covered with camouflage netting.

    http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/296721
     
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    The Ukrainian terrorists have once again tried to begin a solution of the problem of Donbass with a military way, but have come across fierce resistance of the army of Novorissiya. However, fights were started the most cruel for the last few years.

    And again the Ukrainian army kills civilians of Donbass.

    [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch/?v=DCHTbnFcTsc[/video]
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ukraine has a lot of problems, so Poroshenko has to distract from them by restarting the war. Besides his political and economic problems, he also has the stupidity of his military staff... that is unless his actual intent is to kill off as many of his men as he can. This is from Southfront:

    On January 28, the Ukrainian Armed Forces (UAF) and pro-Kiev paramilitary groups (Right Sector) launched a large-scale offensive against forces of the Donetsk People’s Republic. At the same time, the UAF delivered a high number of artillery strikes across the contact line with the DPR. However, the common low level of the Ukrainian military staff resulted in a total military failure on the ground.

    The attack violated the international agreements made under the Normandy format and was likely aimed to legitimate Kiev’s withdrawal from the Minsk protocol. Pro-Kiev units moved to minefields, suffered major casualties and were pushed to retreat.

    Fighting has been ongoing in various parts of the contact line since then. Especially heavy clashes have been ongoing in the area south of Adveevka near Donetsk. Both sides used various military equipment and artillery, including multiple rocket launcher systems (BM-21 “Grad”).

    According to information obtained by SouthFront, so far Kiev forces had lost 24 fighters and over 60 were injured (a notable number of them are now in hospitals in the city of Kharkov).​



     
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    its Ukraine much like Crimea , buy a map
     
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    "army of Novorissiya." LOL)) what your terrorist Girkin said about this pack of middle-aged "men"?
     
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    Ukraine fires at the residential areas of Donetsk again and again.

    [video=youtube;CM0-tFtKT4o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM0-tFtKT4o[/video]

    Kiev continues to kill civil

    [video=youtube;Zowck10sM5o]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zowck10sM5o[/video]
     
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    The Ukrainian military expert Oleg Zhdanov has declared: "The main reason of an aggravation of fighting &#8212; the fact that fighters of Donbass don't want to give up".

    Facepalm...
     
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    Killing and firing at civilians is considered genocide ...which is a form of ethnic cleansing. The intent is to claim a territory from the inhabitants living on it. If this wasn't the intent of the nationalists from Galatia, then what are they doing in a land that has never been theirs ...and which they have never even seen or set foot on?

    One of the things Poroshenko would tell the nationalists/Nazis like the Right Sector, was that the homes in the Donbas would be theirs once the inhabitants left. So they left the wealthy homes intact and only destroyed the poorer homes. Donbas was considered the wealthiest area in Ukraine, and Galatia the poorest... so basically the Russians of Donbas were supporting the Nazis in Galatia province.

    It might be why the nationalist government in Kiev didn't want to federalize. Russia felt though that if they did federalize and were able to form their own trade deals with the EU the way the Donbas had trade deals with Russia, they would have been better off economically. Thinking in productive terms though is difficult for people who react only to their passions of hatred and anger. It's similar to what we're seeing with ISIS in the Middle East. Animals is too good a name for people of this type.
     
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    why all olgino links from always are coming from the trash ? never mainstream media but always from ufo - source youtube channel?
     
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    Because all the mainstream medias belong to 6 corporations, and they are probably owned by the same people because they all write exactly the same thing. They are not reporters giving their opinion on the facts, but stenographers. They are told what to write by the editors. President Trump refuses to go on to them to speak, because he knows that whatever he says they will lie and spin it around. So he goes on to alternate sites and uses twitter.

    Pres. Trump is fighting a great evil, and I always knew that the only people in the world that can turn it around are the American people. Soros and the rest of the neo con ideologues are trying to throw the US into a civil war the way he did Ukraine and Syria in order to disrupt society, and form his new world order and government. He tried to do it now to Hungary, and the president is freaking out.

    They know though that the Americans are armed and there are trained militias that have been preparing for just such a situation... and if there's a war they cannot win. This is why Soros' one world order freaks want to take away people's guns... and this is why the American people will never give up their guns.
     
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    Novorussia is a dead concept...not worth bringing up.
     
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    The only animals are the dead ones like motorola..soon to be Givi, mad Zak, and the other russian terrorists that were killed earlier.
     
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    Since HATO is eager to play war, send them into Ukraine to overthrow the terrorist regime in Kiev, recognize East Ukraine and Crimea.
     
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    dont you think thats ,its funny to see Muscovites who talk about separatism and humanism
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    Because of firings of the Ukrainian army, Donetsk and Makiivka were left without water again.

    Also Ukraine continues to fire at the Donetsk mines. Only yesterday it was succeeded to finish, at last, operation on rescue of 200 Donetsk miners blocked after shelling in the mine. Today the Ukrainian military continue fire at other Donetsk mines.

    The hospital in Makiivka has undergone firing.

    In Donetsk the ambulance car has come under fire. The ambulance driver and the doctor were wounded.

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    Are familiar has gone to Donetsk, to learn from the place what there occurs. Writes:

     
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    The car of journalists which has come under fire.
     
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    Well and the fact that the uke army came under attack..what about 30 times from the criminal drug runners..oh sorry..."freedom fighters" , seems conveniently left out. What freedoms are these animals fighting for exactly...I mean they had all the " freedoms" they needed earlier? Bigger share of drug money perhaps? Oh perhaps share of human organ trafficking? Seems it's a lucrative business these days?

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    Recognize them as part of Ukraine you mean?
     
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    its a myth , update your info to 2017, whats about SVT, BBC, etc. meanwhile in ulus all media work for Kremlin thugs even you know it
     
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    "freedom fighters" a small group of alcoholics, they do nothing without Kremlin direct order ... even Girkin said it 100 times
     
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    It would have been a dead issue, but with the war that Kiev is now restarting, it will become an established fact. What a bunch of idiots they are.
     
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    Yes a bunch of idiots those criminal russian terrorists they are..well ones dead motorola, another bumped off in Moscow..of all places, Givi on the run, soon to be zakarchenko and strelkov...the only established fact is that there's a bunch of crazed zombies running around with stalin flags dreaming of some revived CCCP..most of donetsk and Lugansk want nothing to do with this riff raff..as I said earlier if even 50% of "help " was reduced by Kremlin thugs this would be over in a week tops...animals.
     
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    Oh yes the people in Dombas love the Nazis bombing them in Lugansk and Slaviansk, shooting missiles at them in Donetsk, killing them in the streets of Mariupol, and burning and hacking them in Odessa. I'm sure you would too.

    Don't think for one moment the Nazis in Lviv and Kiev are going to escape the consequences this time the way they did when they killed off the Poles and Jews. When you get blown to kingdom come by the Nuvorussians, you'll find out exactly how much the Poles have forgotten what the Galatians did to them. Just keep tempting them with your Nazi marches.

    I give 'the' Ukraine no more than 6 months. The British said that Russia can defeat their forces in 12 hours, well the Novorussian forces can defeat Ukraine in 3 hours. You people are living on borrowed time.
     
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    Wow..in three hours..yah...with Russia's help lol...Nazis, Nazis, and more Nazis, you Kremlin idiots don't know when to quit. Is it some inferiority complex you possess? Brits say moskals can defeat them in 12 hrs..wow..is with or without towing their tanks like they do their ACC..lol.
     

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