Modern Feminism gives women an excuse to be horrible people.

Modern feminism's objective is to absolve women of what little accountability they do have.

Modern Feminism gives women an excuse to be worse human beings.

Modern Feminism does not value motherhood.

Good parents, both women and men, put their children first ahead of themselves.

However, modern Feminism tells women they come first ahead of their children.

Modern Feminism goes so far as to say that women who kill their own children are victims while men who have done the same thing are, "monsters".

You're not a victim.

You're an adult.

Take responsibility for the consequences of your actions and choices.

Be Accountable.

Ultimately equality is in women's best interest.

You're not going to be an asset to a company if you blame everyone but yourself for your actions and choices.

Blaming other people for the consequences of your actions and choices is just not a successful life strategy in general.

 

Feminism is social manipulation from on high.

 

Luckily, very few women are actual Feminists. Even here in Sweden, most women are apolitical and care more about their hair dye than they do about "oppression".

The problem is that women are herd animals and will therefore very easily fall for stupid trends. Not only has it become trendy to be Feminist, but also has it - very much - become something one has to be. Especially if they are a woman. Thus, many women will claim to be Feminists, but when asked what that means they will shut up like a clamp.

Feminism is indeed very destructive and it has gotten way too much political power and academic influence in relation to its actual support. This of course means that it, despite low support, can influence society which in turn will influence women.

99% of women would not reject motherhood and 100% of them would never put anything above their kids. Feminism can get society, but it cannot get nature. Ultimately, the primary source for the success of Feminism are men. Weak, lousy men are to be blamed and no one but men.

 

I think it's mostly anger from less pretty women who don't get the guy they want.

 

A lot like affirmative action, gave many blacks an excuse to, well, just glide along on the fact that they are black.

When you keep up the mantra, that a singular person's entire worth is based upon their.... Well, whatever, & then make that... "Whatever" the reason they get any type of preferential treatment, or any other consideration, based solely off of that "Whatever", you kill that person's, or set of persons, drive, feeling of self worth, & individuality.

Which, I guess, is essentially a founding principal of today's Political Left here in the States anyway.

 

Some of them actually believe in what they are doing and others just follow the herd to fit in. But, yeah. There are some who are just sexually frustrated and the same goes for the people within the Manosphere.

 

Are you married?

 

Are you proposing to me or what?

 

I just wondered if women like you.

 

I treat everyone with respect and no woman that I have ever met has ever had a reason to hate me.

 

It's misogynistic **** like this that is the reason why feminism exists.

See, some men don't need an excuse to be horrible people.

 

This is a highly dishonest reply to my argument as it doesn't adress my actual argument. You have snipped off my conclusion to serve your agenda of labelling me as "misogynist".

Furthermore, unfounded name-calling never has a place in any serious debate.

Please try again.

 

You don't see a problem with saying "...women are herd animals and will therefore very easily fall for stupid trends"?

 

Nope.

 

I figured as much, which is why we need feminism.

 

Have whatever you want, m8. Just do not expect me to conform to your ideas.

 

I think there's something to be said that women seem to exhibit more of a herd mentality.

In general, women do not seem to think for themselves to the extent that men do.

For example, women will parade a new boyfriend around her friends and her friends will put that men through what amounts to an interview, and the status of her relationship with that man can depend on her friends opinions of the man.

I don't see men doing this like women do.

 

@ryobi
Yes, men are leaders and women are followers.

This is not at all said with any demeaning undertones, but simply being pointed out because that is how it is. I suppose it is just a result of evolution and most certainly is it also connected to the fact that women have higher empathy and EQ than men.

If you look at a group of female friends, they will all dress the exact same way and have the exact same opinions. If someone dares think outside the box, she will be shamed and torn apart. For this reason, many women actually prefer male friends.

In groups of male friends, there is always much more acceptance for diversity in both taste and thought. Men do not judge each other and certainly do not talk crap behind each other's backs.

 

When women are given 63% reduced sentences (and that's after being many times less likely even to be prosecuted in the first place after they have arrested). Is that accountability??? Are feminists working to resolve this inequality??? Are feminists working to make women just as accountable as men in the justice system???

When women blame men for the wage gap after CHOOSING to study easy things at university while men are more likely to study difficult things at university like STEM and as a result they tend to make more money, is that accountability??? Are feminists working to hold women as accountable for the consequences of their choices as men, or are feminists blaming men for the consequences of women's choices??? Is that accountability???

When a woman goes to a bar and gets drunk and then has consensual sex with a man who is also drunk, but then regrets it the next day so she calls it rape, is that accountability, or do feminists include this as rape in their definition of rape???

 

If you what you claim is true, it is a form of misogyny. Obviously, the male judges are giving reduced sentences because they believe women are somehow more innocent or more fragile than men. Feminism is about ridding our society of outdated ideas like this.

This doesn't explain why women in the exactly same job as men, still make less money.

Far more men get away with rape then are falsely blamed for rape.

 

If it can be proven beyond any reasonable doubt that a man is guilty of rape, castration is a great punishment imo.

 

What evidence exists that women working in the exact same job, doing the exact same work make less money than men.

Keep in mind that women are much more likely to work part time and men are much more likely to work more overtime and people who work more overtime, both men and women, tend to make more money than people who don't work overtime.

This is an essay that was in my last book and has also been published in newspapers:

“Today, the average full-time working woman earns just 77 cents for every dollar a man earns…in 2014, that’s an embarrassment. It is wrong.”
–President Obama, remarks on equal pay for equal work, April 8, 2014

Liberals believe stupid things because they believe completely in things in the complete absence of evidence in the presence of overwhelming contradictory evidence, even, and The Wage Gap is an excellent example of this. That’s why it’s the number one stupid thing Liberals believe.

Normally you’ll always find these three statistics in every single study you read: a mean, a standard deviation, and confidence intervals. However, a study exists on the wage gap that’s so good it doesn’t have confidence intervals. Normally a study will calculate confidence intervals because they tell you how likely population statistics are within a certain margin of error of the sample you actually took based on that samples size. However this study was so inclusive there was no need to calculate population parameters like confidence intervals, because the sample in this study is the entire population. This study is that good. The study titled tiled “An analysis of the reasons for the disparity between the wages of men and women” was prepared for The United States Department of Labor Employment Standards Division in 2009 by the CONSAD research corporation.

The 2009 study for the United States Department of Labor Employment Standards Division found that all but 5% of the 22% wage gap is explained by choices made by the genders and there’s no evidence to suggest the remaining 5% is the result of discrimination. In fact evidence suggests the remaining 5% gap is the result of more choice namely the Researchers at CONSAD believe the 5% gap is the result of women choosing more compensation in the form of non-wage benefits but the Researchers at CONSAD couldn’t quantify this factor because of the limitations of their model, namely multivariate regression analysis.

When there is a high R value (coefficient of correlation) between dependent variables in multivariate regression analysis the results can’t be quantified because there is said to be collinearity. Basically, when there is collinearity, you can’t tell what’s influencing what. Is the dependent variable, benefits, being influencing by the independent variable, gender, or is the dependent variable being influenced by another dependent variable in the model? However, it’s possible that the remaining 5% is the result of more choice that just couldn’t be quantified statistically. In a forward to the CONSAD study Charles E. James, SR, Deputy Assistant Secretary For Federal Contract Compliance wrote:

Although additional research in this area is clearly needed, this study leads to the unambiguous conclusion that the differences in the compensation of men and women are the result of a multitude of factors and that the raw wage gap should not be used as the basis to justify corrective action. Indeed, there may be nothing to correct. The differences in raw wages may be almost entirely the result of the individual choices being made by both male and female workers


Even though it’s almost been entirely proven that the wage gap is the result of choice, not discrimination, liberals insist on blaming the consequences of women’s choices and actions on men. For example, Barack Obama also insinuated a 22% wage gap exists that’s the result of discrimination in his 2013 and 2014 State of the union addresses. [5]

Some of the pay gap can be explained by what the genders tend to choose to study at university. For example, men are much more likely to study STEM (science technology engineering and math). For instance, in a paper by Andresse St. Rose titled “STEM Major Choice and the Gender Pay Gap” she found in 2007 women earned 17 percent of Bachelors degrees in engineering, compared to earning 79 percent of Bachelors degrees in education. In 2006 women earned only 20 percent of Bachelor degrees in physics, computer science, and engineering.[2] In a 2007 paper by Dey and Hill titled Behind the Gender Pay Gap they found STEM degrees tend to have higher salaries than their peers with degrees in other disciplines. For example, one year after graduation, an education major working full time earned, on average, about 60 percent as much as an engineering major working full time ($525 versus $851 per week)[3] Despite earning most of the degrees in post-secondary education women are choosing not to major in subjects that result in them being qualified for the lucrative careers that men are more likely to be qualified for when they graduate, and according to Liberals this is men’s fault? If liberals believe in equality then shouldn’t they believe women should be equally accountable for the consequences of their actions and choices as men? Blaming men for the consequences of your actions and choices is not accountability.

For decades, liberals have claimed that discrimination blocks women from landing academic positions in STEM fields. However a paper published online by the National Academy of Sciences by Wendy M Williams and Stephen J. Cecil titled National Hiring experiments Reveal 2:1 Faculty Preference For Women on STEM Tenure Track found that in experiments with professors from 371 colleges and universities across the United States that science and engineering faculty actually preferred women two-to-one over identically qualified male candidates for assistant professor positions. [4]

If you’re preferred 2:1, you’re not being discriminated against. Some people might even suggest a 1:1 preference of identically qualified candidates would be equality and a 2:1 preference for women over identically qualified male candidates is actually an indication of discrimination against men, not women.


Bibliography



[1] CONSAD Research Corporation 2009. “An Analysis of Reasons for the Disparity in Wages Between Men and Women” Prepared for The United States Department of Labor Employment Standards Administration Accessed August 23, 2015. http://www.consad.com/content/report...l Report.pdf

[2] Andresse St. Rose 2010. “STEM major choice and the gender pay gap” On Campus with Women
http://archive.aacu.org/ocww/volume3....cfm?section=1

[3]Dey, J. G., and C. Hill. 2007. Behind the pay gap. Washington, DC: AAUW Educational Foundation
National Association of Colleges and Employers. 2009. Salary survey

[4] Stephen J. Cecil and Wendy M. Williams, “National Hiring Experiments Reveal 2:1 Faculty Preference For Women on STEM Tenure Track,” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/...ulty-positions

[5] Glenn Kessler,” President Obama’s persistent ’77-cent’ claim on the wage gap gets a new Pinocchio rating,” The Washington Post, April, 9th, 2014, The Washington Post, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...occhio-rating/

 

You actually believe that Jenny Fresh-Out-Of-High-School and Johnny Fresh-Out-Of-High-School who both work 25h/week waiting tables at "Luigi's Ristorante" are not being paid the same?

 

So, once again this injustice is men's fault and women have no culpability???

If Feminism is an equality movement, then why don't we hear Feminists complaining about the sentencing gap as least as much as the wage gap??? The wage gap is 22% and the sentencing gap is 63% and 63 is greater than 22 right???

...And women work in the Justice System just like men, including at the very highest level of the Justice System, the Supreme Court.

Three Supreme Court justices are women, Ruth Bader Ginsburg; Sonia Sotomayor; and Elena Kagen.

 

The Wage Gap does exist, but it is built on a statistical delusion no more accurate than "Beyonce and Rihanna make a trillion more per month than Carpenter Bob and Plumber Jack, this means black women make more than white men."

It is based on empty staring on men as a collective and women as a collective and since men and women are different by nature and tend to pick different career-paths, their average salaries will - of course - be different too.

As already been mentioned, women get pregnant, they stay home with a sick child and they work more part time for whatever reasons. More importantly, women tend to seek careers within the public sector, whereas men tend to enter the private sector.

In the public sector there is no natural competition and thus no incentives to raise salaries, in the private sector there is plenty of competition and lots of incentives to raise salaries. Ironically enough, mainstream feminism is very much left leaning and tend to be against privatisation of the welfare, when it actually is something that would help " independent and strong womyn" to earn more and thus even out the percieved gap.

Anyways, the wage gap is very much evened out throughout time anyways as men tend to die earlier and also pay much higher tax than women. To conclude it is not really that there is no wage gap, it is just that it is based on a falseful presumption derriving from a huge misunderstanding of the statistics.