Molesting a fetus & consent

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was just reading about someone who molested a baby and was sentenced to life in prison.

    Now, I know this thought experiment hypothetical is extremely implausible and unrealistic, but if, hypothetically, someone molested a baby inside the womb - never mind exactly how - and the woman gave her consent, would that be okay?

    Can a mother provide consent for her baby?


    Pro-Choicers have said before it's inside of her body so it's hers. Or that it's part of her body.
    Can we be honest here and admit that maybe that might not be true?
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Ya know, you have really had some sick twisted posts in here but this takes the cake...…

    Hard to think about how a mind works that can think of something so perverted.


    No matter how many weird sick scenarios come out of your mind women own their own bodies and there is nothing you can do to change that :nana: :)
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And yet Elective Abortion supporters do exist.
     
  4. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can a woman provide consent over something she owns?
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    :) Pathetic comeback with no defense of your ridiculous OP...
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    That sentence makes no sense ( no surprise there :) )


    No matter how many weird sick scenarios come out of your mind women own their own bodies and there is nothing you can do to change that :nana: :)
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is actually the most pathetic imaging you have come up with so far, I am not sure how you could come up with something more silly, though I am sure you will eventually try.
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    I LOVE this thread.

    It emphasizes just how desperate the Anti-Choicers are and to what depths they must sink to come up with some kind of "argument"......
     
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    If you need to use deviant examples to try and create a justification, then perhaps you need to review your position on pretty much everything.

    Just sayin'.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is "Consent Over"?

    Consent to makes sense but perhaps you mean control over?

    If so then yes....everyone has control over their bodies (themselves) and until birth the ZEF is part of her body.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If it's part of her body, why shouldn't she be able to give sexual consent to it? (or should she??)

    Can we admit that the fetus is, in certain respects, distinct from the rest of her body? (talking about ethical rights)

    I think we all agree that if a woman wanted to she could give sexual consent for a man to use any other part of her body (no matter how implausible) and it would be her natural right to be able to grant that privilege.

    (Although some people might find it in poor taste for a pregnant woman to have sex with a man when the fetus is not his)
     
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    Okay...I have had enough of this. You should seek some kind of mental evaluation concerning your strange sexual fantasies before it becomes something worse. Rather than feed this issue I bid you goo day.
     
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  13. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's just an intellectual thought experiment, trying to draw a parallel to help Pro-Choicers see the truth.

    Geesh, sexual assault on an innocent life is not okay but killing is?

    Maybe you think killing is somehow more noble.

    If it was just a blob of tissue, there should be no problem, right?
     
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    This is what extremists do...
     
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    WHO said that? Just YOU.



    There is NO sexual assault on a fetus except in sick twisted minds..








    Nothing "intellectual" about it....and a mind that thinks of ways to MOLEST a FETUS ! ???? PUKE!

    Do you think that's anywhere near "normal"???
     
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    I think you have some real issues. By the way how do you sexually molest an embryo? There is something very sick about what you were talking about
     
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    :) Maybe this "argument " is what they plan to take to the Supreme Court in their futile effort to have RvW overturned.....they haven't anything else ..

    It is slightly better than squawking "abortion is immoral, abortion is immoral"" like a demented parrot...

    :)
     
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    Okay

    Let us step back from the ridiculous OP and look at consent in general. The ability to consent to invasive procedures can and frequently is, conferred to “significant others”. Even “pre born” children since the introduction of of interuterine operations

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3471263/
     
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    I have said many times abuse of a living thing is unethical no matter how many times you come up with sick hypotheticals.
     
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    I think this thread may be a bit lower than the panda bear thread. I can't believe what you were willing to reveal about yourself to make such a weak point. Sick.
     
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    so you want to arrest parents for having sex during pregnancy?
     
  22. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How about arrest her for not using birth control, if she later chooses to have an elective abortion.

    They could go back and try to prove she wasn't using birth control.
     
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    WHY?
     
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    If she is using birth control and gets pregnant anyways, does she get a free pass for elective abortions?
     
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    Makes me think someone is off his meds.
     

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