More abortions = less welfare. Pick one, right wingers !

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  1. Channe

    Channe Banned Donor

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    I am so tired of these anti-choice people out there who also complain about crime and welfare. All evidence indicates that the less babies born to poor, unfit parents the better. But time after time you hear the same right wing parrots harping on welfare recipients and the inner city poor, but failing to realize that if abortion was made cheaper and move available that it would cut down on the amount of future welfare recipients and criminals.

    I think abortion is a good thing for society as it prevents overpopulation which inevitably leads to crime, poverty, and uneducated cultures.
     
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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Abortion is an abomination. It should be minimized. The way to address poverty is through good economics and good values, not abortion.
     
  3. custer

    custer New Member

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    I I agree

    We need abortion for population means. It really is the best solution to many problems.
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  4. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    What's wrong with our population?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member

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    Abortion should be a last resort, in my opinion offering free vasectomies to all who request it would be a far better alternate means of lowering the need for welfare and lessening the number of those living in poverty. People will always have sex, and sex will always lead to unplanned pregnancy....unless no eggs get fertilized in the first place.
     
  6. Channe

    Channe Banned Donor

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    you do realize that overpopulation has a direct impact on economic stability and crime in a region, right ?
     
  7. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    What "overpopulation"? You know what the population should be or something?
     
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    I pick self control and personal responsibility. If you can't afford to have kids then you probably shouldn't be having sex all the time.
     
  9. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    less welfare, no discussion.
     
  10. Spiritus Libertatis

    Spiritus Libertatis New Member Past Donor

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    Abortion is a life/death issue. We need a national referendum on when, exactly, the fetus is considered "alive". Gather up the votes and average them - before that average poitn in time, it shoudl eb legal. After, it should be illegal.

    Let everyone decide instead of insisting that your position is right.
     
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    freakonature Well-Known Member

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    Can I choose an option that provides free abortions to anyone, but no welfare for anyone?
     
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    freakonature Well-Known Member

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    You do realize that the US is not remotely close to overpopulated?
     
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    You actually forget a word, it's "Forced abortions = less welfare". Abortions has done little on its own to shrink it.

    Since abortion arose, single motherhood has exploded. Why? Because far more than the women, abortion with welfare has freed "the man" from feeling responsibility as a provider. Either way he thinks, it'll get taken care of without him.

    Which is a myth, this is why.
     
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    Abortion is an excellent method of preventing increased welfare, crime and ... new Democrats.

    Another method would be to offer all the Shenikas extra welfare money (bonuses) for precious little blossoms which they do not spew out. As it is now, the more kids Shenika has, the more money she gets. It should be just the opposite -- the fewer the kids the more the money she gets.
     
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    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More abortions means less welfare, sure. Euthanasia would reduce welfare even more. Should we accept that evil too, just because it cuts welfare?

    Your argument is invalid. A greater evil does not justify a lesser.?
     
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    Ooh ooh! Do I get to pick, too? More abortions, definitely. But can we also have better welfare? Poor people would be better off if they weren't all sucking down McTransFats, McPesticides, and McJetFuel.
     
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    There is no evil here. Early term abortions kill unconscious cellular clusters. Euthanasia kills people who want to die. Welfare takes money from people who have it and give it to people who don't. None of these things, in and of themselves, are evil.
     
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    You can choose that, but it comes with rioting and revolution.
     
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    How about we have responsibility so abortions are not done. We could also vote out democrats that hand out taxpayer money in the form of welfare to buy votes for democrats. Both problems solved.
     
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    No what we need is people who behave in a responsible manner which means if you aren't ready to have kids don't procreate.

    I will now stand back and wait for the straw men to rain down.

    By the way we could also limit population growth and a lot of other problems by refusing to treat STD's and lettng the irresponsible clowns fro whom their ability to take pleasure from others trumps the right of a child to be born and live, suffer the other unwanted by products of rampant promiscuity.
     
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    Right on, although i wouldnt change the welfare payout it should be minimal already, just dont pay any extra for having children other than providing education and healthcare for the child. When people feel the financial impact of their decisions they'll soon opt for that cheap contraceptive.
     
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    Middle class white girls get most abortions.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    We needs our welfare! We will not go back to the days when one person can provide for their family! Rawr! Nonsense, like last time they were kicked off of welfare they will get jobs despite all the democrat blustering about people dying in the streets.
     
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    How is it our responsibility to pay for adults who don't act like adults? Here's my plan that will solve both problems. We pay for your first welfare baby after that if you decide to have another child or 8 in many cases you pay for them yourself or get donations from the liberal lefts personal bank accounts. As soon as Obamaphone mommies have to cough up dough to pay for their 6 kids from 6 different fathers instead of us paying for them you will see an immediate drop in abortions and welfare babies.
     
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    So your solution to cutting crime is murdering children? And you see no irony in this?

    Actually, let's take this one step further. If we just abort all the poor people, then all the welfare receipients go away completely which means they won't be reproducing/overpopulating either. If abortion is the answer to eliminating welfare, then this would be an even more comprehensive solution, would it not?
     

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